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Old 01-27-2008, 05:48 AM
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I found a car stuck to some emblems and bought mine that way .... Couldn't prove the car and decided the owner ordered them from Joels catalog a couple decades ago so I sold the car and Kept the emblems .

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Old 01-27-2008, 07:02 AM
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I bought a car once for a set of seat belts, then sold the car for $100. more than I paid for it.

PS: And then I gave the seat belts away to a friend who needed them for his nice '64. All in all, everyone was happy.
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Old 01-27-2008, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: Original B/M emblems ....

Maybe you guys can help me out on this. I have 2 sets of Motion emblems with the proper script, but one is slightly larger than the other. Which one is correct? Are both correct (one size for valve covers, another for the hood)? Was there a change in size at one point? Or, is one a real good copy?


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Old 01-27-2008, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: Original B/M emblems ....

I believe there were at least two different sizes, and one was clipped on the ends to fit inside one version of the ansen valve covers. I could not speculate on the originality of these as I have not had a set in hand in many years. However, these appear to be different from the packaged originals and the current repoops on peebait.
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Old 01-27-2008, 07:09 PM
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Default Re: Original B/M emblems ....

I believe the larger emblems were the initial design and the ends were trimmed so that they would fit into the finned valve covers circa very late '69. At some point the later smaller versions were produced and fit into the valve covers without the need to trim.
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Old 01-27-2008, 07:12 PM
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There were indeed 2 sizes, but your 2 sets look nearly the same size, at least in the pics. The original larger ones were considerably wider and taller than the smaller versions. The bottom set you posted IMO are originals, the top set may be reproduction. Hard to tell for sure in photos...You can usually tell the differenceby the chrome, with the originals having very crisp,sharp edges on the letters and the perimeter, while some repro attempts have been overly polished, taking the sharp edges off. Some repros are also cast from a very soft metal and will "bend" easily with little pressure... originals won't. Also compare the texture in the blackout area. I haven't held any of the latest fake ones that are on ebay in my hands, so I can't say for sure what the differences are with them, but I'd say its a safe bet they're detectable as fake too if you know what to look for. They made several batches of these, and I've seen slight variations in known original emblems too... in fact, judging from the pics of yours, vs. the originals in the package, it appears the letters are "thicker" on BOTH of your sets compared to those. Doesn't necessarily mean yours aren't real, but just some more differences to note.
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: Original B/M emblems ....

the real ones I have have been cut and dont have the chrome
trim on the ends.They are not the big ones.
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Old 01-28-2008, 01:05 AM
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Not sure why that would be PJ. Any small originals I have all are uncut, the only reason they cut the bigger ones was to fit in the covers... the small ones fit in the covers without modification with a good 1/4" left inside the recess.
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Default Re: Original B/M emblems ....

Not to over state the obvious - But those three sets of emblems look totally different.

The font and letter placement is not the same. The I and the O almost touch on Keith's first set,
and are connected on the second. The packaged set has an equal spacing around all letters.

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Old 01-28-2008, 03:56 PM
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Easy way to tell most of the repops from originals is that the "O" is THINNER at the top and bottom of that particular letter on the original's, fatter on the repops.
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