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Old 11-28-2007, 07:54 AM
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Oh well, I just still don't agree that it's that easy to fool someone that knows about these cars.


Hey JOZW30 ,

Is it live or Memorex? Tell me if you believe this one to be authentic? You seem to think that a well-done clone can fool none of the Olds guys. Tell me with your W-30 expertise whether this one is real or fake? I have my own opinion after seeing it & hearing it run at the fall 2006 Mecum auction. It also had a very unique broadcast sheet that had NO mention of W-30. The owner has a reason for this though that sounds legit. Right!!! I guess this Muscle Car Review magazine is supposed to prove some level of authenticity also as if they were not converting/cloning cars way back in the late eighties. Good luck! But it had ALL THE RIGHT PARTS. Thanks Parts Place! The owner seems to be willing to do or say anything to establish some level of credibility for this car. But you should still be able to weed out the fakes for us novices. Maybe you better E-mail a few of the bidders and tip them off as to your take. Just my opinion though.

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Old 11-28-2007, 08:41 AM
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So much for this seller's theory that NO 1969 Broadcast sheets-say W-30. Here is a car purchased November 1969 with a broadcast sheet that clearly is marked W-30. Maybe I am just confused though.

http://www.colinsclassicauto.com/detail.php?car=12
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:01 PM
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i have been told that 70 olds buildsheets do not have a vin!??!

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Old 11-28-2007, 09:29 PM
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I just love his marketing scheme!!!! Start out with a '69 Cutlass, add this kit and some water.... poof Instant H/O!!!!
(1969 - 1969 Cutlass/442 ) HURST OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS FACTORY APPEARANCE KIT H/O - COMPLETE KIT TO CONVERT ANY 1969 CUTLASS "S" 442 OR CONVERTIBLE INTO A 69 HURST OLDS LOOK-A-LIKE. KIT INCLUDES: 1 DUAL SNORKEL HOOD SCOOP, 1 PAIR OF SPECIAL MIRRORS AND MOUNTING HARDWARE, 1 REAR SPOILER WING, 3 HURST OLDS EMBLEMS, 455 H/O SCOOP DECALS, 1 DOC WATSON GLOVE BOX EMBLEM ANOTHER PART NOT INCLUDED THAT WOULD TAKE YOUR CAR UP A NOTCH IS A SET OF ORIGINAL 455 "D" HEADS, WHICH WE ARE ALSO REPRODUCING. WITH THE PARTS WE MAKE YOU CAN BUILD AN EXACT DUPLICATE OF THE FAMED 1969 HURST OLDS

The price tag of all of this--$929. Used to be the mirrors alone were close to this price. Granted, nothing can replace paperwork and original owners, but this is borderlining on stupid easy clones!!!
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:53 PM
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Well, you guys that own real W-30 cars, and have no problem with clones because you believe they raise the value of your real, authentic, matching numbers W-30, just wait and see how hard it will be to sell your car when some Oldsmobile guys begin doing this....

http://www.yenkocamaroparts.com/information.htm

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Old 11-30-2007, 08:19 PM
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Wow 200K-not too bad for a clone. Wonder what a real one with perfect docs is worth?$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ PHS is nice but really only comes into play on cars worth more than 30 or 40K -RM
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I just love his marketing scheme!!!! Start out with a '69 Cutlass, add this kit and some water.... poof Instant H/O!!!!
(1969 - 1969 Cutlass/442 ) HURST OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS FACTORY APPEARANCE KIT H/O - COMPLETE KIT TO CONVERT ANY 1969 CUTLASS "S" 442 OR CONVERTIBLE INTO A 69 HURST OLDS LOOK-A-LIKE. KIT INCLUDES: 1 DUAL SNORKEL HOOD SCOOP, 1 PAIR OF SPECIAL MIRRORS AND MOUNTING HARDWARE, 1 REAR SPOILER WING, 3 HURST OLDS EMBLEMS, 455 H/O SCOOP DECALS, 1 DOC WATSON GLOVE BOX EMBLEM ANOTHER PART NOT INCLUDED THAT WOULD TAKE YOUR CAR UP A NOTCH IS A SET OF ORIGINAL 455 "D" HEADS, WHICH WE ARE ALSO REPRODUCING. WITH THE PARTS WE MAKE YOU CAN BUILD AN EXACT DUPLICATE OF THE FAMED 1969 HURST OLDS

The price tag of all of this--$929. Used to be the mirrors alone were close to this price. Granted, nothing can replace paperwork and original owners, but this is borderlining on stupid easy clones!!!

[/ QUOTE ]..Got any PICS of your" STINKY H/O"..?? What # is yours..?? Mine's # 57
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My stinky H/O! The original owner failed to send in paperwork for the little owners tag. I have never tried to search out the original owner as he spent time in the 'iron bar hotel'.
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My stinky H/O! The original owner failed to send in paperwork for the little owners tag. I have never tried to search out the original owner as he spent time in the 'iron bar hotel'.

[/ QUOTE ]...Is your VIN # in the DEMMER records..??
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:16 PM
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HO455,

First, sorry if I offended you or anyone else with my opinions.

As for that e-bay car, I stand by what I said. I can't tell whether it's real based on the info in the auction. If I was forced to make a decision on that particular car without seeing it in person, I'd keep my money in my pocket and wait for a car with better documents. Anyone on this forum buying this car without climbing all over it in person?

Like you & others have said, the seller has gone to a lot of trouble to create a comfort level regarding the authenticity of this car. For me that says there is nothing "bulletproof".

Therefore, back to my original comments, I'd treat this thing like a "could be" W30, and would not pay top dollar. Unless while looking at it the seller produced something that could not be questioned. You’re talking about being “fooled”, what is so tricky about this?

Maybe because I'm a poor schmuck and couldn't afford to be wrong about something like this. I'm guessing most guys that can spend this kind of money on a hunk of metal and plastic won't miss meals when it comes time to sell it and they’ve learned it's not real.

By the way, how does what the car sounds like 36 years later have anything to do with its authenticity?

As for the 69 H/O "kit", didn't see where it included the one-of-a-kind intake, and air-cleaner assembly ($$$$$$$$). But I guess there are people out there that would be fooled without them..........

Again, sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings.
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