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[William]

It is time to clarify the COPO body number nonsense.

Unreal stated it correctly-ALL '69s have distinct body numbers. I have paperwork from a dealer that had about 100 '69 Camaros. Dealers transmitted Camaro orders to Central Office via a crude fax-type machine. If all were confirmed the number that later apperared on the body tag was assigned.

That means ALL Camaros, not just COPOs, ordered/confirmed at the same time will have consecutive body numbers. COPOs, 6 cylinder converts, Z/28s, whatever, may be in the mix.

The Gibb ZL-1s are a fine example. Based on the 'NCJxxx' order form # they were all ordered at the same time. From the data I have they were assigned body numbers 222001-222043 or so. At least one of them is not in sequence with the others; it is almost 18,000 units later.

Why? I have no idea. But it proves that a grouping of COPOs ordered by a single dealer may not have sequential body numbers. It is true that many are such as Yenko, Berger, Dale and others. It simply is not always true.

If Gibb ordered other Camaros that day one or all of them may be in sequence with the ZL-1s. In addition I have a loose 2220xx body tag that certainly did not come off a COPO.

Ergo a Camaro that has a body number close to COPOs is not necessarily a COPO. A Camaro that has a body number no where near other COPOs could be a COPO.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

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.... it proves that a grouping of COPOs ordered by a single dealer may not have sequential body numbers. It is true that many are such as Yenko, Berger, Dale and others. It simply is not always true.....Ergo a Camaro that has a body number close to COPOs is not necessarily a COPO. A Camaro that has a body number no where near other COPOs could be a COPO.

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Ditto! This is exactly what I've found in my research as well. There are no absolutes.

[PeteLeathersac]

Using the Gibb cars example, are the units of the same color sequential by Body #...just thinking of the cars going through the paint process?.
Also, is it known if the scheduled units went down the line in order of Body #, Vin sequence or color groups...or neither?.
Lastly, I remember reading once how when '69 Copo 427 cars were first coming available that a minimum of 10 cars had to be ordered first by a dealer to 'join the club' then additional units of any quantity could be procured later by that same dealer code?. I don't recall if what I read specified 10 of each Copo type or an accumulative total of 9560, 9561's &/or the different Copo Chevelles?. Is this folklore, fact or any known mixed up version of some other true fact...Bob J. maybe?.

~ Pete

[William]

In the case of the Gibb ZL-1s all are in body number order by trans/color except Le Mans blue; automatics first, then the 4-speeds.

The first two ZL-1s built N569358 & N569359 are body #222002 & #222003 and are both Dusk Blue/automatic. #222001 is a Le Mans blue 4-speed. The car with the outlying body # is Le Mans blue 4-speed.

I also heard that dealers had to order a certain number of COPOs but the facts contradict that. Many of the non-Gibb ZL-1s were individually ordered by other dealers.

By the way the lowest ZL-1 body number is #211785, the #3 Berger car. It was ordered before Gibbs.

[ssl78]

The other white Douglass Yenko is one body number away from mine.