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Old 10-15-2007, 09:19 PM
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Default Re: New TRIM TAG law going into effect in Oklahoma

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Too easy...remove the fake tag. Yes it is not worth what it was but that is what happens when you buy a car with a fake tag. Hard to get sued if you sell it without a fake tag.

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how do you do this when you sell your car and had no idea the tag was fake?

only a guilty party would know it was a fake tag...

now the car is sold! now your in court! you lose! now you pay big dollars! up to 3 times?

wow! that would just kill me! more than my house is worth!

explain that!
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:18 PM
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I'm 100% on board with this new legislation and I look forward to working in Pennsylvania to effecutate something similiar.

I may be a lawyer but I'm in this and 100% behind this law to protect other hobbyists, period. The hobby needs protection and thats what I do every chance I get.

Great work guys!!!

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Old 10-18-2007, 07:28 AM
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..of course the lawyers like the law..$$$$..(j.k).
I think my points may have been misunderstood, all I was trying to say was good luck trying to nail anyone with this law, there is way too much grey area. no one will benefit from it but the lawyers.
...By the way, the first comment of my paragraph is just meant as a fictional comedic relief, and in no way reflects my true feelings towards any individual either alive or dead, nor any group or faction, or necessarily any one who is was or has been a lawyer or any other meaning that might get me into more trouble than I can talk my way out of.
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: New TRIM TAG law going into effect in Oklahoma

I agree. IMO perhaps the best way to still get a bad guy is actually in civil court but likely only worth it on a big dollar car.

Unless GM produces the actual vehicle build records I do think the Oklahoma law is worth much unless the reproduction of the tags is regulated and recorded by the government at the point of sale, meaning that you and the government both know that the tag is potentially being purchaced to create a reproduction of a specific vehicle type.

Prerequsite: Identify and gain access to all the Fake TT sales records from the producers of these tags. Create a D base where a prospective customer could check the TT with the Government prior to purchase.

Next how to handle the "tag collectors". The material fact of a purchase becomes a perminant record that is associated with the tag and its content. Should someone choose to attach it to a vehicle then simply regulate the sale and transfer of the tag also. Make it illegal to attach it to a vehicle without registration and approval by the BMV.

BMV could then alter the title to state that the vehicle is a "REPRODUCTION" and the vehicle then becomes legal to sell as such.


The down side is if someone chooses to clone an existing car and fake the VIN# tag also. Then there may be two or more of one type of a specific car and establishing which one is the "real car" then could become the issue.

Of course all of the above would be utterly nuts to codify and enforce- IMO it really IS buyer beware.
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Jeez Richard....
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Default Re: New TRIM TAG law going into effect in Oklahoma

Moderators please edit the above post regarding the Streisand quote. Not needed or appropriate.
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Default Re: New TRIM TAG law going into effect in Oklahoma

Richard...that little closing comment is completely out of line.

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Old 11-07-2007, 08:16 PM
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Yes we do edit free speech here...Keep politics out of it. Plenty of other sites to talk politics.












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