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it is a very loaded question actually. as belair62 stated by the website description its dedicated to the CHEVROLET dealer built supercar and COPO cars. however, a 69 Hurst SC/rambler is a dealer built racecar specifically designed to compete in F Stock dragracing. and the SC in SC/rambler stands for Super Car. i am to young to know when exactly the term Super Car was placed on dealer installed and factory prepared automobiles, but i would be just plain lying to you if i said this was only a Chevy thing.
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I think that if you talk about the L89, L88 and ZL1 Corvettes, yes. I'd include the '71 LS6 in this group, also. You've got aluminum heads, solid lifter and tri-power in the case of the L89. These are racing cars with high dollar options that were in extremely low production when available. If you've ever driven a well tuned L89 Corvette, you'd classify it as a Supercar. I mean no disrespect for an L78, L72 or L71 Corvette, but these were certainly more mainstream Corvettes with a fair number made.
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The 1970 L78 Camaro is rarer than a 1969 427 COPO Camaro, why is that not in the SUPERcar category.
The L78 has square ports, 11 to 1's, solid cam, 4 bolt main,forged pistons, dimple rods,780 holley,etc same as the COPO, it is a race car same as COPO. The L72/L71/L78 Corvettes are race cars also, basically with same motors. Now the L88/ZL1 these are truely special race engines in a higher category. I think that if you call a L72 COPO Camaro a supercar then a L72 Vette is also one. |
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OK, I know I'll regret this but let's give it a try anyway.
The L-78 Camaro you reference, although a rare animal for 1970, was in fact available to the general public through ANY Chevy Dealer, just like the 435 HP Corvette. The LT-1 Nova (aka Deuce) was NOT an RPO code for the Nova in 1970. It was a specially built car made possible through the COPO process. General consensus here (the Supercar Registry/ sYc) is that RPO optioned cars DO NOT fall into the 'SUPERCAR' category as defined by this site. Another example: In 1968 an automatic transmission WAS NOT available to the general public behind the L-78 in a Nova. Fifty of those cars were built; COPO 9738. In 1969 it was available to the general public so the M-40 equipped L-78 Novas in '69 & '70 are not considered SUPERCARS. Confusing? It really has nothing to do with huge horsepower, or whether it's a BBC or SBC. It's more about Factory/Dealer built specialty cars here. On other sites you'll find other SUPERCARS, such as Ferraris, Lambos, Maseratis, etc. It just depends on where you are.
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Well said Cumby, and right on. The only thing I would add is that the COPO order in question needed to be some sort of performance oriented change or upgrade, not to build a taxi cab or work truck. To answer the original question quite simply.... no.
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OK, I know I'll regret this but let's give it a try anyway. The L-78 Camaro you reference, although a rare animal for 1970, was in fact available to the general public through ANY Chevy Dealer, just like the 435 HP Corvette. The LT-1 Nova (aka Deuce) was NOT an RPO code for the Nova in 1970. It was a specially built car made possible through the COPO process. General consensus here (the Supercar Registry/ sYc) is that RPO optioned cars DO NOT fall into the 'SUPERCAR' category as defined by this site. Another example: In 1968 an automatic transmission WAS NOT available to the general public behind the L-78 in a Nova. Fifty of those cars were built; COPO 9738. In 1969 it was available to the general public so the M-40 equipped L-78 Novas in '69 & '70 are not considered SUPERCARS. Confusing? It really has nothing to do with huge horsepower, or whether it's a BBC or SBC. It's more about Factory/Dealer built specialty cars here. On other sites you'll find other SUPERCARS, such as Ferraris, Lambos, Maseratis, etc. It just depends on where you are. [/ QUOTE ] OK, then how about the 70 Z28 COPO? It was tied closely to trans am racing? It was not available generally, and less than 500 were made? Do I get a star on my belly? ![]()
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No...but you are getting a red bullseye and we are going to use Tabasco coated pellets
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What is an LM1?
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No...but you are getting a red bullseye and we are going to use Tabasco coated pellets [/ QUOTE ] N'awlins remember? Tobasco is good on anything! ![]()
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