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Amen and very well said, redeuce. I'm a little tired myself of self-proclaimed 'experts' ripping apart other cars to show off their knowledge of certain vehicles. Even when they're not even for sale like the Fathom Green '69 Camaro in the new Hemmings musclecar magazine that ended up belongng to a member of this very own board. I guess picking flaws is what you do when you can't afford the car.
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Amen and very well said, redeuce. I'm a little tired myself of self-proclaimed 'experts' ripping apart other cars to show off their knowledge of certain vehicles. Even when they're not even for sale like the Fathom Green '69 Camaro in the new Hemmings musclecar magazine that ended up belongng to a member of this very own board. I guess picking flaws is what you do when you can't afford the car. [/ QUOTE ] OUCH!!! I may be in the minority here but...I come to this site for the knowledge of the members. We DO have "experts" here and if they did not impart their knowledge then I would feel slighted. If you are going to advertise a car as a "frame off restoration" then be ready to hear what is not correct on the job you did. You can rebuild a car from the ground up, but if you don't put it back to the way it rolled off the dealers floor then it is a rebuild not a restoration. As for the "not being able to afford" part...do you think that every "expert" at documenting art for the Louvre can afford to by the art for themselves? Does that make them any less an expert?
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Ray, you are not in the minority by a long shot...people who want to advertise a car for sale here should look at the positive side of the collective knowledge available...I for one would be glad to help anyone with info on Novas...photos, resto stuff, etc...and I'm sure others would do the same for other makes and models...it is true we can sometimes be a little "picky" but that is the price of admission. Besides, once a car goes to Ebay the scrutiny becomes even more important(at least for me)...now back to the car...bench seat TH400 L78 Novas are a rare bird and are a blast to drive(I know
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Tom, I agree 100%. I have been messing with 70-74 Camaros for almost 30 years and I still learn things about them on this site.
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If people don't want negative comments, then do it right. If not, then don't over-advertise it. Why is this so hard for some folks
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Reduce and Mark Johnson, Tom Williams is a 69/70 Nova expert.
I do not see most of the critique remarks as being "bashing" or "ripping". This websites readers either own many high dollar accurate restos (ala SCW customers), or many of the rest of us, are interested in details being accurate. Nobody was implying that the Nova owner/seller is being deceitful. It is just being pointed out what parts and areas of restoration are accurate and what items or issues are NOT corrrectly done. Last I heard members here have the right to post civil remarks about what they see or think in so far as restoration originality goes. If you dont want these remarks made about your vechicle, you shouldnt participate in this public forum. BTW, I wish ALL posters would have the common decency to at least sign off with a first name and last intial. All this living behind a screen name is nonsense!!!! Do you walk around the SCR10 or your work place calling friends and associates by a "screename" my .02 and best regards,
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I think most people forget where they are....This is not a hot rod disscussion forum. This is a site " Dedicated to the promotion and preservation of the Chevrolet dealer
built Supercars and COPO cars" ...That's straight from the homepage. I want to believe that's why most people are here. Yes, there's a tactful why of making a point on a car discussed. I'm guilty of being on agressive side (bashing) myself. If we cannot discuss cars that are out there...Should the owners word be taken as gospel? Hardly...Why are some cars untouchable and other given a free pass? You all were pretty hard on the car with the 22" wheels....But a discussion over a air cleaner,ect ??? |
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As a member of this site I would expect the members here to tell me what is wrong with my car. As I am not an expert on
all the details of my 2 cars. When members give me their opinion I am gratefull. I am always learning and hope to continue with the help of many of our experienced members. Thats my 2 cents wort. ![]() PJ |
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HEY FELLAS IT IS CALLED CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM.... NOBODY IS BASHING ANYONE'S CAR.. THAT WAS NOT MY INTENT FOR POSTNG THIS AD!!! I THOUGHT IT WAS A COOL LOOKING CAR AND LIKE WILMA STATED, L78 BENCH SEAT TH400 NOVAS ARE RARE CARS AND FUN TO DRIVE!! I REALLY LOVE THEM!! YEAH, I KNEW THE AIR CLEANER WAS WRONG AND SAID SO, BIG DEAL!! MAYBE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISCLOSED IN THE E-BAY AD.. I SEE LOTS OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DO NOT KNOW ANY DIFFERENT AND TO THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT PURCHASES THE CAR, THINKS ITS CORRECT, THEN SHOWS IT ONLY TO GET IT PICKED APART BY A JUDGE AT A SHOW AND DEDUCT POINTS.. HOW DO YOU THINK THAT PERSON WOULD FEEL.. MAYBE IT'S BETTER TO KNOW AHEAD OF TIME OR BEFORE SOMEONE BIDS $40,000.00, YOU THINK?? AND YES, THERE ARE EXPERTS ON THIS SITE THAT ARE A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE WHEN IT COMES TO CERTAIN CARS AND I VALUE THEIR CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM AND EXPERT KNOWLEDGE.. I THINK YOU ARE "READING INTO" THINGS TOO MUCH.. I CAN ONLY DEFEND MYSELF AND CAN'T SPEAK FOR ALL!! MAYBE THERE ARE SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT JUST LOVE TO "PICK THINGS APART" FOR THEIR OWN GRATIFICATION AND IF SO SHAME ON THEM... THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY!!
RICH
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Rich is correct, the more disclosure in an ad the better. When we talk about cars like this, it's a learning experience for all of us - not a bash session!
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