I know you guys will tell me like it is ..

[njsteve]

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I seriously doubt that. It is still a car at this point, although maybe it shouldn't be. I think there was a thread on this car from about a year ago, the last time this car was on Ebay.


Jason

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...and I believe I left the same free legal advice last time too. I am just trying to keep fellow enthusiasts out of trouble.

[Joe]

steve i never said anything about removing the Vin or trim tag .
your close enough do you want to inspect the restoration if i buy it >??

[quick-bowtie]

I think if you kept the car and disclosed it if you ever did sell it there wouldnt be a problem.. Granted the law says its illegal but Ive never heard of them seizing a car (maybe if it was in some legal battle or something) but we all know of some rebodied cars that have been floating around forever and be sold and advertised that way.. and no ones came in and taken them away or arrested people..

Just gotta why would you pay that kinda of money for basically a trim tag in the first place?? Theres nothing left of that thing.

[njsteve]

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steve i never said anything about removing the Vin or trim tag .
your close enough do you want to inspect the restoration if i buy it >??

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Any time someone uses the term "rebody," that is a legally defined term that presumes that they took the VIN off of one vehicle and placed it on another.

As for the cars never having been siezed or anyone arrested, I could probably arrange an interview for you of one of several upstanding citizens who are either now, or have been in prison for that crime.

The National Insurance Crime Bureau NICB (the same people who keep records on where every car built was originally shipped) specialize in investigating this crime and once they gather the evidence of a VIN swap, they forward that info to the criminal auto theft investigtaors in the nearest state or Federal law enforcement agency for that area.

I'm not here on my high horse trying to lecture anybody, I am just giving you the information you should have to make an educated decision on a possible purchase. My advice would be to let this car go and find something with no legal baggage that will follow it forever.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

My neighbor drug an X22 car out of the woods here in jersey a few years back... had discs, booster, mounts, centerlink, console, shifter and the rustiest body i have ever seen with no rear or doors. I believe he got around 2200 for it....

[rat tuned]

i have never restored a car before. i have owned quite a few though. what happens if a guy with a camaro needs the piece below the windshield replaced? is it ok to remove the vin and reattach it to the replaced metal? this seems to be rotted on a lot of early camaros. what do you guys do about the special rivits? mike

[Hylton]

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i have never restored a car before. i have owned quite a few though. what happens if a guy with a camaro needs the piece below the windshield replaced? is it ok to remove the vin and reattach it to the replaced metal? this seems to be rotted on a lot of early camaros. what do you guys do about the special rivits? mike

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That does not contradict anything Steve said. With your example, you would still be putting the VIN back on the same car. Although Steve makes a valid point regarding the laws associated with removing VIN tags, there is a grey area when it comes to rebuilding cars or trucks. Walk into a reputable body shop these days and you will see roll-over pick-ups getting cabs from 'doner' trucks. This means that the VIN of one vehicle is used on the cab of another which insurance companies regularily do to avoid writing off a vehicle. Completely legal.

[68l30]

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The National Insurance Crime Bureau NICB (the same people who keep records on where every car built was originally shipped) .......

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Fyi, Almost every car built....I know of a few that are not in the NICB system...How or why? It's a topic that was discussed at SCRX over a few


Steve

[Joe]

So steve you never answered the direct question , If i take that cowl and frame and rebuild a body on it . would that be acceptible ? What Legal Firm are you associated with ?
i called my lawer just for hahas and he said they do it everyday in Body shops , as mentioned above .
Remember , i'm not attacking anyone i Value any and all input . It seems at this piont its to controversial to get involved . If it had been more positive i would buy it .