ZL 1 #51

[sYc]

Mark, Seems the negative light is being cast by Lamar himself, not others.


Jude, am I reading this right, Lamar stamped the VIN on each block that he ran in the car, which would make for at least 5 blocks (the original plus 4 others) with that VIN? WOW.

[NovaMob03]

Tom, it crossed my mind that all 5 of them might have been factory stamped. I had had bought another ZL1 block from Lamar at the same time & the stampings looked totally different.
I feel certain that when Reggie & Lamar met they discussed repairing the block so Reggie might buy it. Reggie's happy knowing that he has 1 of 2 'factory sponsored' ZL 1's.
It's the 3rd party's involvement that has upset the apple cart. I'm assuming he might have one of the 4 extra blocks, & just like me, thought he had purchased the original one. This will play out in time.
BTW I like Lamar & in no way was this thread meant to tarnish his image. He's always treated me fairly.
It could be that the buyer learned of the sheet metal replacement on the car & has used the 'non orig block' issue to get out of the deal.

[Charley Lillard]

Jude....When you bought your block from Lamar did he tell you it was the orig block out of # 51 ? Did you sell it to Charlie Biele as the orig block to # 51 ?
Now we are blaming the third party ? Someone apparently sold him what he thought was the orig. block for # 51.
Somethin stinks in Mudville.

[sYc]

Jude, there is one thing that just keeps jumping out at me, something you you stated in your original post. <font color="red">

So, now it appears that I bought one of those extra blocks from Lamar even though he told me that it was the original. </font>

Also, I do not blame the buyer for wanting out of the deal. Who wouldn't after all of this?

[NovaMob03]

Yes, Lamar told me that it was the original block. I told Charlie that Lamar told me it was the original block. Charlie told Reggie(and put on the bill of sale) 'to the best of his knowledge it's the original block'.
The 3rd party, that's apparently involved, called Barrett Jackson through his attorney while the auction was going on. At least that's what Reggie told me.....

[COPO]

I can say that until Monday of this week, I was convinced that the one and only original block to #51 resided in Reggie's car and came from Lamar's shop 6 years ago. I am also certain that Jude felt he sold to me the one and only original block to #51 which I in turn sold to Reggie after he did not want to sell me the car 6 years ago. (Restored ZL-1's cars were going for $80K-$110K then) I felt the car and block should be reunited.

When the block was sold to Reggie, it was sold in "as-is" condition as the original block to #51 "to the best of my knowledge" which I put in writing, and I stand by that statement today. Both Jude and I would gladly repurchase the block for what either of us sold it for as it remains very valuable.

I don't blame anyone but Lamar, because he is the only one that knew the true story. Since the block apparently was actually used in the car, perhaps he felt it was OK to claim it was the original one??

[Charley Lillard]

Markjonnson....Maybe you can ask Lamar to elaborate on how there are now three orig blocks to his old car and they all came from Lamar ?

[COPO]

One thing that I left out of my post was the block that Jude got from Lamar for #51 and was ultimately reunited with the car, had what looked to me, and many others, correct stampings on both the front pad and the alternate VIN location near the oil filter. There was no evidence of restamping or machining to the block in these areas.

[Belair62]

Lamar does some pretty amazing stuff with W engines...