70 Chevelle SS FAKE build sheet

[1railman]

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Although that would seem to make sense, it didn't always happen that way. I know of a 70 Z28 that was sold new at Nickey Chevrolet in Chicago....you'd think it would have been built in Norwood OH, but it was built in Los Angeles

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I've got a Leeds built 1970 car that was delivered to a California dealer, when you'd think it would have been built at Van Nuys.

I did this in a couple posts at TC, and I think Bruce did it here as well - we need to start listing VINs in our threads so that future owners can come to the boards and dig up this info on their cars. Once the ebay listing is gone, its gone.

Here goes: 1970 Chevelle SS convertible on ebay, VIN 136670K133115 red with black top and interior. Being sold by ebay user do00065 from Crystal Lake, IL

And why not have the fake build sheet image posted as well, so that if the mistakes are corrected, there's still the evidence of the "original" fake one.



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Why?
Because this is just one car and we should protect the hobby.

[chevelleheart]

I Totally agree , don't reveal the mistakes!

[Rainer]

I agree also about posting specific mistakes, which is why I didn't point any out in my post. If the sheet does ever get corrected, it will be hard to explain the copy of the one we have in this post.

Although I agree with Bill and others that there is some concern with the fake build sheets getting better, I am optimistic that very soon we will see the collector car market respond with some document authentication service offerings.

I have no background in this area, but I'm sure that there are experts who can easily detect whether paper and ink are 37 years old or just made to look that way. Document forgeries have been happening for centuries, but modern technology has come a long way. Combine that with some expert knowledge of the correct information to be found on a sheet, and the fakers will be stopped dead in their tracks.

Weighing a cost of $100-$200 for this type of service against a $30000-$60000 purchase price seems like a no-brainer. Whether its done for-profit or established by some car hobby governing bodies, this needs to be available.

[Rainer]

Just did a little digging on the internet, and found a ton of info on document examination. Here's one brief explanation:

"Forensic document examination is the scientific examination of handwriting, hand printing, alterations, obliterations, indented writing, typewritten and machine made documents, photostatic copies, ink and paper analysis, possible dating and other related document problems.
Documents examined are subjected to various types of non-destructive examinations; such as, visual, ultraviolet, infrared, microscopic, photographic and indentation examinations."

My prediction is that it will just be a matter of time before we start to see cars on the market with "certified" documentation, and sales of collector cars being contingent upon documentation examination.

The scammers are going to be screwed if they have to answer the question, "Is there a problem with making the deal contingent upon expert examination of the buildsheet?"