eBay '66 L78 El'Camino

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I don't think Mike Crown came on too strong at all. When I originally read the ad, I certainly thought the seller was saying it's a matching number motor, meaning, original motor. With the lengthly description of the car, all it would take is one short line saying non original engine. The ad could have been edited as well, and never was. I can only think of one reason to re-stamp a block, and thats to pass the car off as an original motor car. Otherwise, after the block was decked, it would have been left blank.
Even if the seller isn't trying to be deceptive, how about the next time the car is sold, and the time after that. Man you really have to be careful these days.

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I think that sums it up right here, if you stamp a deck with a different VIN it is deceptive, period. Lets move on.

[chevjon396]

Bill Rose and Mike Crown are both dead on correct in what they have posted here about real "original" cars. The sellers out there who dance around with words like "matching numbers" know that the readers are going to be impressed with the thought that the car has its factory/assembly line original parts. The more this kind of stuff happens and is glossed over the more it will negatively effect true ligit cars. Wrong is wrong and a knowing non-disclosure is wrong in any trade or hobby.
jon haislip

[Hank Williams Jr]

That was a pretty nice El Cam though. I hope it does find a happy home, one where the owner knows its true history, and appreciates it anyway. (I know I would!!)

[BBIGG BLOCK 396]

Well Hank you should buy that El Camino,you could tote your guitar in the back!I can see you smiling from ear to ear now.

[ANDY M]

Car sold for $33,433. Bidder7. Reserve lowered, game over.
Good luck to the new owner.

[TimG]

I'm afraid that numbers matching no longer means original engine or original stamp. It may mean that, but in my opinion all it means is that the ID derivative on the block matches part of the vehicle ID number. It's just the first part of the equation to determine if it is the original engine the car came with. I no longer get wound up if someone with a "restoration motor" in a car tells me that it is numbers matching, in fact, I expect that statement. Now I have the first of about three questions answered that pertain to the originality of the engine. Numbers matching no longer is an absolute and I don't think that someone that states numbers matching for a known restoration motor is being dishonest. I will add that if I had a restoration motor in a car, I wouldn't refer to it as numbers matching, but a restoration motor.

[PeteLeathersac]

Nothing personal Tim as I love 'Vettes and understand how this whole Chevy numbers things has really evolved from the 'Vette collectors and judging groups, BUT...personally I still have a problem with ANY restamp. .

Couple questions...Is a 'restoration motor' ever an original born with motor or always a correct castings/dates motor with a 'perfect' rebroach and restamp? .
And are 'restoration trim tags' Ok in the 'Vette world yet...seriously?.

Again, personally I'd prefer a replacement motor be as correct as possible with castings, dates, suffix correct too if possible, BUT...left alone as far as broaching/stamping goes! .

~ Pete

[scott s]

hope bidder #7 know what he is getting??I was told he was wireing 35k for the car site unseen..

[mudjnky]

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hope bidder #7 know what he is getting??I was told he was wireing 35k for the car site unseen..

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It is beyond me how anyone can spend any amount of money without seeing the vehicle. I've reached the point where I won't give a seller more than a fair deposit (as little as possible) and the balance in cash when its ready to go on the trailer. I'd rather lose a deposit than get stuck with a bad deal.