Where is ZL-1 #66?

[M.W.C.C.]

Hello everyone. I just wanted to put my 2 cents in on this thread. I find it very coincidental that the owner of the so called "original drivetrain" for car #66 put his auction for all to view almost exactly a month before the Scottsdale auction. We all know the value of these rare pieces and this may all be an elaborate plan to discredit a true classic or get a huge chunk of money. As many of you have asked, "why has Bill not contacted either the owner of #66 or the authorities"?? Also, why did he list it on ebay of all places?? I personally believe it was for maximum exposure and he sure has achieved that.

If the car was destroyed then the state has to be notified and the title would reflect that PERIOD. Even though Bill says he tossed the car around like a piece of junk, even back in the 90's these cars had real value. If it was stollen, why was it not reported??

I don't know what to make of any of this, but if Bill truely has the original stuff, it needs to be reunited with the car. I do not believe that the whole story will ever be known. If I had car #66 then I would be at this guys front door right now. There's just too many scenarios and we all may be the fools. Without any more replies by voodoo, we're all just guessing.

I am a business owner and restorer of these fine Camaros for almost 20 yrs and have watched this hobby grow to the mega business that it has become. I frightens me too see a current trend of fakes, swapped tags, and restampings all for money. They are becoming rampit and as enthusiasts we need to secure the future of these classics. We need to keep this thread going and get to the bottom of this (if possible)as the implications are huge.

Thanks for listening to my 2 cents.

Nick @ M.W.C.C.

[nuch_ss396]

Well,

I do have to admit that I am a little confused over why
VoDoo responded early in this dabate, then went AWOL.

I do believe that it is put-up or shut-up time.

Where is VoDoo?
Where is the current owner of ZL-1 #66 ?
Anybody close in Waterburt, CT that can see these parts personally?
Does anyone here know if ZL-1 #66 is a "numbers matching" car?

Steve

[Rick H]

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Where is VoDoo?

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Probably sitting at his computer reading all this and laughing his a$$ off.

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Where is the current owner of ZL-1 #66 ?

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Probably sitting in his lawyers office NOT laughing one bit!

This guy's (vodoo) last post was 2 days ago. Obviously it was meant to ruffle feathers. Time to let it go.

Rick H.

[hvychev]

This hobby is beginning to suck. Maybe it is just in this end of it. I don't know......

[Lynn]

My notes from Dec. 1997 indicate #66 was owned by "BAR-JACKSON" at the time, which I must assume is Barrett Jackson.

I am making no accusations. Just trying to figure this out along with most of you guys. Bill's auction states;
"I have owned this car since the 80's, It was registered,insured, and taxed till 99."

That sure SEEMS to be at odds with my notes. Of course, if the car was in a pile somewhere, or thought to be in a pile, it could be possible. But why would you keep registering and INSURING a car that was in a pile? Again, not making accusations, just asking legitimate questions. I would like to see a clear pic of the VIN derivitive stamping on the side of the block. The one in the auction is pretty bad.

I don't know Bill and I don't know the current owner. If Bill does indeed have a river card to play, sure seems this would be the right time to play it.

[JimM]

I'm beginning to smell a rat.

This is completely hearsay at this point, but "someone" just told me that the rear in the ebay auction was "found" in a newly purchased Nova a month ago.

[JimM]

I found a post in the archives from someone who saw the cars at a show in pheonix several years ago, a silver ZL1, #66. The owners name is there, and at least at that time, was NOT Pat McGrober.

The curiosity is killing me, I may have to pm Charley, he knows all.

[Jim_Becker68]

This auction for me has some questions.

1. This is a horrible time of year to auction off big money items. Many people are traveling, taking time off work to be with family and just not paying a lot of attention to something like e-Bay.

2. Why put the dollars in e-Bay's pocket when it is such a tough time of year to sell????

Other things that bother me...

If I owned a ZL1 which, with it original numbers matching rear end, transmission and engine would be an ungodly amount......wouldn't you keep track of the car? A true muscle car collector would have this car no matter what condition under lock and key and all paperwork in a fireproof place.

If the car was long off the road.....why continue to register and insure the vehicle????

If crushed why are the records not available??? Surely the state of Connecticut has salvage yard laws. I know in the state of Illinois they are very strict.

Why are so many of pictures so poor???? For the amount of money that one is expecting from this auction, you would expect the photos to be crisp, clear and well lit. These on this auction are not.

If this person - voodoo (Bill) - did show up with title in hand a few years ago to lay claim to the car #66 what was the legal out come? From what others have written on this thread, law enforcement was involved. Voodoo never did say what the outcome was of that incident. We only know that he said he was not arrested.

If voodoo knows about the car being represented as the true #66, why has he not started legal procedings??? I would believe that there are many attorneys that would gladly take a 1/3 of the value of a numbers matching ZL1.

There is a whole lot of story that is in the dark on this car, engine, etc. I for one would surely not want to be in the center of this storm.

[Belair62]

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I'm beginning to smell a rat.

This is completely hearsay at this point, but "someone" just told me that the rear in the ebay auction was "found" in a newly purchased Nova a month ago.

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It must be someone close to the inner circle there, as that faction is staying VERY quiet other than Beliar's attempts to ridicule the guy selling the motor.


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So this little ditty on Camaro.net where you Moderate looks kind of premature now huh ? Learn how to spell my name.I am not ridiculing anything. The whole story sounds pretty stupid doesn't it ? No one in my "inner circle" owns this car and I have no clue who does.Don't infer that I am covering someones asss Jimmy.

[Motion Camaro]

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This hobby is beginning to suck. Maybe it is just in this end of it. I don't know......

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<font color="blue">If I had #66, I would make it a full out G-Machine just to end this thread.

WHAT!?

Don't tempt me, I'll do it ...

OK, that's it ... where's that ad???

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