Where is ZL-1 #66?

[azcamaros]

Beware of this auction! Car #66 has been in Arizona since the late 70's, and remains here.

[vodoo]

I am the guy who listed this motor on ebay, This motor is REAL never touched, I want the wining bidder to bring cash and view this motor with his own 2 eyes to see that I am no joke. And for you people out west, You must not NO that this car was raced its whole life in the EAST COAST!!!!,At many different race tracks, I would hate to be the guy who claims he own's a FAKE CAR!!!!! I DON'T PLAY GAMES!!!!!

[Charley Lillard]

Is this the car that Pat Mcgroeder owns or owned ? As I recall, someone tried to report it stolen when it was seen listed on Ebay but Pat had proof of ownership that went back to long before the car was reported stolen.

[azcamaros]

Charley

You are 100% correct regarding #66

[Charley Lillard]

vodoo...Are you claiming that car # 66 that Mcgroeder owns or owned is fake ? I know Pat owned it for a long time and he is a very competent attorney. If there was a problem with it being a rebody or fake he most certainly would have resolved it. The car was on Ebay a couple years ago being sold I think by Desert Autosport ? Someone from your neck of the woods tried to claim it as their car and I think was arrested ? Was that you ? We think you are the guy that had the Copo Camaro and LS6 Chevelle convert that were very real so apparently you did have some serious cars but making a statement about someones ZL1 being a fake is a serious claim and could get you in hot water if you have nothing to back it up. You might have the engine and rear but that does not make the car a fake. In your auction you claim either you crushed the car or your employees stole it. I would think you would still have the title to it ?
Anyone who knows the owner of 66 might tell him to look into this auction because it would be neat to get the orig engine and rear back with the car if it proves out real.

[Kim_Howie]

Popcorn with lots of butter. Please

[ZL1#17]

As you all know there are two sides to every story. Bill has stated that he owned the car since the 80’s. He removed the drivetrain from the car and placed it in his salvage yard. At some point the car disappeared. He does not know it was crushed or stolen. If it were crushed, then #66 is gone. How can #66 be in Arizona, unless it’s a fake? If were stolen, well then that’s a legal issue between Bill and whoever has car #66. I feel Bill has every right to know what happened to his vehicle, as I'm sure most of you would want some sort of closure.

[Charley Lillard]

My understanding is the car in Arizona was purchased from the orig owner in 1977 and has paperwork to back it up. 1977 predates Bill owning it in the 80's. As I recall, law enforcement got involved in arizona a couple years ago and the paperwork and car were proven to be real. The car is still in Arizona. If it was Bill that tried to claim the car a couple years ago and he had a case why is it still in Arizona ? Maybe Bill was sold a fake in the 80's ?
ZL1#17...Did Bill tell you anything about trying to get the car back when Desert Autosport had it on Ebay ? Did he say what the outcome was ? The fact that it is still in Arizona even after law enforcement was involved tells me they own the car.

[vodoo]

Hi Charley,
Yes I am the guy who own's the COPO and LS6 conv. Yes I am the guy who made a stink about the car# 66, No I was not arrested. How can I be arrested when I never signed over ownership. At that time any vehicle 10 years or older in the State of CT had to be present for inspection at the Department Of Motor Vehicle. My car vin# 124379N644311 was registered that way. So how can anyone call my car a fake? If you can call my car a fake that means you are also calling the Department Of Motor Vehicle a fake? Before you answer anything I have said remember I still have the original driveline!!! The other car someone claims to own must be all restamped!!! Any law enforcement agent is welcome anytime. I have laid my had down, but I still have the river card left.

[PeteLeathersac]

[ QUOTE ]
I am the guy who listed this motor on ebay, This motor is REAL never touched, I want the wining bidder to bring cash and view this motor with his own 2 eyes to see that I am no joke. And for you people out west, You must not NO that this car was raced its whole life in the EAST COAST!!!!,At many different race tracks, I would hate to be the guy who claims he own's a FAKE CAR!!!!! I DON'T PLAY GAMES!!!!!

[/ QUOTE ]

Hi Bill...do you own another Copo or is this the same one you're referring to in your previous posting in '05? .


~ Pete

04/16/05
"...Hi Ed, I am the guy from Ct that ownes this burgundy copo. Yes you are right it was a race car from day one. This car was purchased new by Debs Speed Shop, Oakville, Ct. Any other info. or pictures would be a great help. Thank You!!!!..."