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Old 12-23-2006, 06:02 AM
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"Brute strength,ignorance and vise-grips"......Companion tools of the hammer...otherwise known as.."BFH"


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Old 12-23-2006, 07:09 AM
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Add a crowe bar to that mix!
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Old 12-23-2006, 09:56 PM
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and of course a sawzall for easy removal of misinstalled parts!
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Old 12-24-2006, 03:03 AM
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FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO THINK YOU HAVE TO USE A TOOL TO INSTALL A STOCK TYPE HARMONIC BALANCER, HA HA HA. WE BROKE (1) AFTERMARKET CHEAP PIONEER BRAND BALANCER BECAUSE OF A BURR ON THE CRANKSHAFT SNOUT IN YHE LAST 15 YEARS. GIVE ME A BREAK, YOU GUYS PROBABLY RUN AWAY FROM A PRESS WHEN ITS GOING TO POP OFF A BEARING OR SOMETHING. STOP READING THOSE MAGAZINES AND PICK UP A WRENCH. USE THE TOOL IF YOU LIKE OR HAVE A FLUID DAMPER, ETC.. BUT DON'T SIT THERE AND SAY THE BALANCER IS GOING TO BREAK IF YOU POUND IT ON. GO TO YOUR LOCAL ENGINE REBUILDER AND SEE HOW MANY TIMES THEY USE THE TOOL BESIDES TEARDOWN TO REMOVE IT.
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Old 12-24-2006, 06:55 AM
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YEA! I love it. Where have you been hiding?? I wonder how Chevy installed them? with a hammer.
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Old 12-24-2006, 06:53 PM
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FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO THINK YOU HAVE TO USE A TOOL TO INSTALL A STOCK TYPE HARMONIC BALANCER, HA HA HA. WE BROKE (1) AFTERMARKET CHEAP PIONEER BRAND BALANCER BECAUSE OF A BURR ON THE CRANKSHAFT SNOUT IN YHE LAST 15 YEARS. GIVE ME A BREAK, YOU GUYS PROBABLY RUN AWAY FROM A PRESS WHEN ITS GOING TO POP OFF A BEARING OR SOMETHING. STOP READING THOSE MAGAZINES AND PICK UP A WRENCH. USE THE TOOL IF YOU LIKE OR HAVE A FLUID DAMPER, ETC.. BUT DON'T SIT THERE AND SAY THE BALANCER IS GOING TO BREAK IF YOU POUND IT ON. GO TO YOUR LOCAL ENGINE REBUILDER AND SEE HOW MANY TIMES THEY USE THE TOOL BESIDES TEARDOWN TO REMOVE IT.

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See my first post...


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Old 12-24-2006, 09:28 PM
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I'm not one to mince words. If you use a hammer (big or small) to install a balancer, you are an IDIOT ! I don't care if you can pound on the balancer and the snout of the crank all day long with a hatchet and have it not break. You are still compromising the integrity of the thrust bearing in the engine. As was said before, the balancer should go over the snout snug and require a little ass to seat properly against the slinger/lower timing gear. If it slips right on Marlin, get you's self another balancer. I think that FluidDamper makes a stock-like Chev balancer that would be the ticket. NOW ... with all that said. If it did go on originally with a snug fit, then the question becomes .... "What was the root cause of it getting loose ?" If you have an engine balance issue, it could be the cause for the balancer getting goofed up (technical term). I've NEVER used Loctite on a balancer bolt and have never had one come loose. Just a thought .........
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Old 12-28-2006, 08:13 PM
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Thanks for the reply Casey, I ordered an installer tool - no need to use the BFH. I believe the rca is a bolt that lossened up, I don't believe I have an engine balance issue. I had the engine balanced by the machine shop, including the flywheel and pressure plate. Another deuce owner also found a loose balancer bolt after racing, so we are both using loctite this time around.

I spent about 4 hours over the holidays cleaning up the crank snout, there was some slight galling from the old balancer. I finished it up with some 600 grit paper, looks nice.

The replacement balancer fits snug when pressed on by hand, but obviously it's only about a 1/4" installed. I'm awaiting the installer tool, then I'll know for sure how things have worked out. I will change the oil, and break open the filter to see how it looks.
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Old 12-28-2006, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: What caused this?

Probably not great on the threads with an air tool but I always used an impact gun to draw them in...a 1/2 drive ratchet or johnny-bar if no air available. .
Had a few fail that spun between the inner/outer but can't recall any ever coming loose? .

Considering possible failure results, whatever the installation method it's probably not a bad idea to check and confirm periodically? .


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