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Old 02-07-2007, 02:16 AM
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Stefano - Thank-you for taking the time to answer the questions for the most part. Still didn't answer what car this clearly 1969 427 motor could have come from.

So you are now questioning the vin stamp at the oil filter boss. That this motor wasn't installed into a Kansas City built car. I am attaching a photo of this area.
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Old 02-07-2007, 02:21 AM
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Here is the engine pad with a straight edge along it. I would like to know where the "belly" is that John or Dan (forget which "expert" stuck his foot in mouth first)

Come on guys, I know that the eyes get fuzzy after 40.
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Old 02-07-2007, 02:23 AM
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Just in case you didn't see that I will send another picture from a different angle
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Old 02-07-2007, 02:32 AM
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here is the engine pad in question. Don't ever make the mistake of cleaning off the engine pad with a scotch brite pad because it will cause slight scratching from side to side. This was actually their "proof" at the SCR9. Imagine my surprise to find that they revised their reason based on a non-existing belly on the engine pad.
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Old 02-07-2007, 03:00 AM
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Stefano - I thought it was John's opinion you were reciting. What are you doing at a shop that fakes motors? Is this same person stamping them to order with build dates and vins to match? Yikes!!!

This motor would have had to be faked almost 9-10 years ago since it has been in my friends garage 6-7 years. Prior to that it was supposedly pulled from a car at a north Texas junkyard and then rebuilt and sold at the Dallas swap meet.

One of your buddies offered half price for this motor a couple weeks back. Imagine my surprise that a highly respected collector would consider putting a "fake" motor in one of his COPO cars. I saved his e-mails so that I could have a good chuckle.
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Old 02-07-2007, 03:22 AM
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Stefano - I thought it was John's opinion you were reciting. What are you doing at a shop that fakes motors? Is this same person stamping them to order with build dates and vins to match? Yikes!!! <font color="red">The shop was rebuilding the allready restamped engines and I made the statement for the sake of those who quote back 10 years ago and say that it was not happening. It has been going on for a very long time with Chevys and Mopars as well as all others. </font>

This motor would have had to be faked almost 9-10 years ago since it has been in my friends garage 6-7 years. Prior to that it was supposedly pulled from a car at a north Texas junkyard and then rebuilt and sold at the Dallas swap meet. <font color="red"> Having the original car would sure go a long way, but unfortunately sounds like it is long gone. </font>

One of your buddies offered half price for this motor a couple weeks back. Imagine my surprise that a highly respected collector would consider putting a "fake" motor in one of his COPO cars. I saved his e-mails so that I could have a good chuckle.

[/ QUOTE ] <font color="red"> The engine outwardly appears to be an original L72, not a fake. I'm confident that many members would have no problem buying it at the right price, if there was a need and using it in a Copo Car.
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Old 11-16-2007, 03:35 AM
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Once passenger head is removed you can clearly see if broach lines tampered with. BUT, there is blocks that have never been stamped, once stamped (w'good stamps) very difficult to tell.
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Old 02-07-2007, 02:29 AM
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You would do well to reread all the above posts about the stamping of your engine. I don't think anyone mixed any words. I'm not questioning it now. I questioned it then and did provide my opinion which has not changed since I looked at the engine and stampings. But, it is after all just my humble opinion.

I stopped by a noted engine builder just the other day he had no less than 6 fresh restamps/restoration blocks being put together. Several were Stamped as L72s but didn't even start out with 4 bolt mains. This is not a new phenomenon.
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