1969 NOVA SS L-89 ONE OF 311 UNRESTORED ORIGINAL

[SSJunkie68-69]

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I guess one jerk pays too much for his car on ebay last month and this is the result

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Admitting to the problem is the first step towards recovery!!!!

Seriously though 427King, check your PM's. I sent you one and have some info you might be interested in.

[HEMIBEE]

kind of reminds me of the MOTOWN days, sit back drink beer and watch the stones fly.

[Kim_Howie]

What ever happen to him???

[king_midas]

I call complete b.s. on this story. No manufacturer, then or now, would give two sets of heads with a new car purchase. No way.

Think of it like this-- When you dealer ordered your headers for the Z/28, did they give you the exhaust manifolds? Nope.

A dealer would have kept the L78 heads for warranty work, as dealers do now with factory-supported (i.e.: Warranty-friendly) aftermarket parts. VW does it with switched-out parts, Honda does it, GM does it...

This story is bogus. Don't believe it.

Aaah, the joy of collecting Chevys continues...

[1967Z28]

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Think of it like this-- When you dealer ordered your headers for the Z/28, did they give you the exhaust manifolds? Nope.


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Not trying to get off on a tangent but the above is not a true statement. A '67 or '68 Z-28 that was ordered with factory supplied headers, would have had both the exhaust manifolds and the headers supplied with the car. The manifolds would have been installed on the engine and it was up to the owner or dealership to install the headers themselves. I bought my green '67 Z from the original owner and it was ordered with the headers and the owner verified that he had the headers installed and he gave me the original manifolds and section of exhaust pipe which was removed to make way for the headers. They were like brand new. The original window sticker verified the car was a RPO Z28BD, which was a factory header and cowl plenum car. Both air cleaners also came with the car. The chrome open element one on the engine and the cowl plenum stuff in the box. No malice intended here. Just setting the record straight.

-Jon

[Steve Shauger]

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Think of it like this-- When you dealer ordered your headers for the Z/28, did they give you the exhaust manifolds? Nope.


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Not trying to get off on a tangent but the above is not a true statement. A '67 or '68 Z-28 that was ordered with factory supplied headers, would have had both the exhaust manifolds and the headers supplied with the car. The manifolds would have been installed on the engine and it was up to the owner or dealership to install the headers themselves. I bought my green '67 Z from the original owner and it was ordered with the headers and the owner verified that he had the headers installed and he gave me the original manifolds and section of exhaust pipe which was removed to make way for the headers. They were like brand new. The original window sticker verified the car was a RPO Z28BD, which was a factory header and cowl plenum car. Both air cleaners also came with the car. The chrome open element one on the engine and the cowl plenum stuff in the box. No malice intended here. Just setting the record straight.

-Jon

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I knew you or Zedder were going to set him straight.

[427king]

A customer of mine sent my son this.. I guess L88s fit in hummers

[427king]

I always thought the 311 production number was L89 camaros and novas combined,with unknown number for novas[if any at all]. Is that true,or was it 311 camaros only.?

[67L78conv]

I have always heard/read it as being 311 Camaros only.

[Denis]

311 L-89 Camaros is pretty much accepted gospel per the Camaro reference books over at least the past twenty years. Here are actual page scans from four such books:

Big Book of Camaro Data 1967-1973 (1995) - Page 47
by John Hooper:




Camaro (2002) - Page 55
by Steve Statham:




Gm Muscle Cars (2002) - Page 50
by William G Holder, Phillip Kunz:




Camaro - (1995) Page 40
by William Holder, Phillip Kunz, Phil Kurz:



What might explain the L89 Nova confusion is the excerpt below wherein the authors apparently confused Camaro numbers for Nova numbers:

Super Chevy's Nova Handbook: Restoration and Performance for 1963-1967 Chevy Novas (2000) - Page 10
by Super Chevy Magazine Editors: