Reconstructed Vehicle VIN swap

[king_midas]

Yes, the last comment is the best-- Why document? All kidding aside, with the criminals that are currently running around this country, nobody's going to go to jail, unless the car is chopped...

Now, onto a better question: What is the difference between this and some of the trash that has been sold on e-bay that basically needs EVERY panel replaced? A recent thread on the board that I commented on:

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/show...0/fpart/1/vc/1

Or, isn't GM perpetrating a fraud by making new, licensed, pre-assembled Ca-mullet bodies available for purchase? You KNOW people are going to swap vins onto those; is it just understood, and (pat, pat) it's 'okay' because you're helping the good 'ol U.S. economy by purchasing a body somebody had to weld together? Something is rotten in Denmark, Batman...

Really, the cases are similar, and known re-bodying is what has always happened in the hobby when something can't be saved/costs too much to save. So, the question is this: If the GN that the VIN was swapped onto was legal (i.e.: Not chopped/stolen, etc...), is moving the VIN still illegal, and if so, why? The seller was up-front, and told of the accident history... Next thing: How would actually repairing that GNX (I'm putting on a helmet and getting my cup in) be any different than cutting EVERY panel off of a Ca-mullet in attempting to repair 35 years of abuse? Doesn't that make the car a re-body as well?

I'm playing the devil's advocate here, but it holds some truth.

[king_midas]

(edit) ... not that the argument that has been posted makes moving a vin right!

[flyingn]

actually he DID NOT tell of the accident history. All he did was that it was hit and reconstructed. Never did he state (even after many people emailed him and asked if it was true) that the car was revinned to another car completely. The point is that each and every of the 547 GNX's were numbered and # 298 is gone. He did not just repair #298 like he states.. The person is bidding on a GN with the vin from #298 plastered on.. He *NEEDS* to state this in his auction. BTW- thats illegal in pa.. Highly illegal.

[COPO427]

These crooks need to do time. It's illegal to move a VIN tag to another car.

[amuseme]

I can only say what I've said before, the law not withstanding, the only 'part' of #298 that makes #298 a real GNX is that little piece of metal with the VIN on it. Everything else is just sugar on the donut!

[Pacecarjeff]

Where did the current car come from?
Maybe it is stolen.
That is why it is illegal to switch VINs.
Because it is just too easy to do this.
Crash your car? just steal another like it, and switch the tags.

[Gregs396]

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Where did the current car come from?
Maybe it is stolen.
That is why it is illegal to switch VINs.
Because it is just too easy to do this.
Crash your car? just steal another like it, and switch the tags.

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That is a very good point, but what IF the seller has a clear title for the "Doner" car that proves that nothing was stolen?

[Pacecarjeff]

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That is a very good point, but what IF the seller has a clear title for the "Doner" car that proves that nothing was stolen?

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Good point yourself.
I guess theoretically you would have to purchase both cars.
And would then get both titles.
Doesn't sound like this is happening in this case.
Sounds like the seller is claiming that this is only 1 car that has been rebuilt.???

I think a Lawyer, or a Judge would have to comment on that.
Still sounds illegal to me.