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Old 08-16-2006, 08:19 PM
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For years I refused to watch or listen to it because my opinion was, it was all sensationalism designed to increase their ratings vs. their competition. Somewhere buried in all their ramblings are traces of truth, only as CYA.

[/ QUOTE ]Well put Mr. C! The way I see it, the jokers doing the news over at Comedy Central get as much right as do the "professional" news folks!! And that is SCARY!!!
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The Jihad

Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in Canada and the United States, especially in the minority race.

Allah or Jesus?

By: Rick Mathes founder of Mission Gate Prison Ministries in Chesterfield, Missouri,

Last month, I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their belief systems.

I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked:

"Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?"
There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!"

I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?"

The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes."

I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven. The Imam was speechless.

I continued, "I also have problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be with me?"

You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslim's beliefs.

I think everyone in the US and Canada should be required to read this, but with the liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized.
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Old 08-19-2006, 12:24 AM
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check out snopes.com on this one -- a little different version of actually what transpired and who it was said to.
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Not to make humor out of serious subject matter but....
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check out snopes.com on this one -- a little different version of actually what transpired and who it was said to.

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Not is the Muslim religion the fastest growing, they are pushing for their own Sharia law here in Ontario. Someone had better give their heads a shake for even remotely considering this idea.
With three of our family in the Canadian forces, we are more aware than most regarding what is going on outside our borders. Our lads have been in Bosnia, Kosovo and Afghanistan and have seen how the rest of the world lives. It is a different world for sure.
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Politically correct till the Muslims kill them as well... then it's too late!!!
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At least you fellas up north have a National Language ---The Politicians are dragging their butts down here to make English the National Language...I go into some areas of Brooklyn and can't read the store signs since they're in some arabic or slovic language or some other language of the month with no English translation..............
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As long as we keep being so politically correct, not wanting to offend anyone... there is a reason why people immigrate to the US.
What is it?
They come here leaving their own country behind for a variety of reasons, if they come on their own free will, then why would they want things to be done like it was in their former country?
What would be different about America? It will turn into the same crap that they left.
Then they are gonna do what... move on to the next host?
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As long as we keep being so politically correct, not wanting to offend anyone... there is a reason why people immigrate to the US.
What is it?
They come here leaving their own country behind for a variety of reasons, if they come on their own free will, then why would they want things to be done like it was in their former country?
What would be different about America? It will turn into the same crap that they left.
Then they are gonna do what... move on to the next host?

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That is a rather complex question you want answered. I can offer you a certain simple answer with many varying avenues however.

American Exceptionalism. (and Jealousy)

Americans have been governed by a free body will of the Constitution and Bill of Rights and when we see a change needed, we amend for the purpose of increasing the quality of life. One of the many reasons for the current spike in immigration is the fact that numerous countries do not share these uniquely "American" traits with their people. Liberties and freedoms that we often take for granted such as freedom of speech, are not tolerated in these other countries.

I do not want to offend anyone here but for example Mexico. In the wealthiest cities and towns in Mexico, the highest paid worker might be making $100 a week. The same worker in the United States could be making $400-500 a week. A fair assumption can be drawn that freedom and money drive immigration. But while this worker is pleagued by long work week hours and terrible working conditions, because he is living and working in the US he feels a common bond among other workers. He now wants to assimilate and amalgamate into culture. Little does he know, his attempts to escape the dooms of marginal society will fail, because he cannot success cross the boarder-land.

But at the same rate, The United States fuels its economy off of the immigrant. How people do you know, would work for $5-$10 an hour to fulfill the challenges of life (rent, car payments, gas money, food money, clothing, insurances, doctor visits) not many I'm sure. So this new wave of worker is willing to bust his case in order to keep the American company owner happy. If the United States did not a huge population of this worker then close to 100% of all consumer goods would be outsourced for production. Then people within the United States would be out of jobs, the economy would plummet and (for example) the GDP would look like ground zero. So while some of the immigration issues we're facing today are intensified because of large masses of immigration, when immigration was less sevre, our liberities were not challenged like they are today.

There are so many ways to tackle this question; this is just a taste of one direction.



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