70 COPO

[70 copo]

Just my opinion based on the fact that mine is real and I was offered crazy money for it. But then again there is plenty of crazy money out there these days. The real ones with paper and history are so rare it is hard to keep an eye on what the market is.

If you find a real one (for regular Z money) please be sure to let us all know so one of us can get it.

Phil

[Seaspray]

I just took a look at mine and it is an 06B build date and has original body panels and paint. Nothing appears to have been touched.

[COPO]

Phil, I think you were offerred "crazy money" because your car is exceptionally restored and certainly one of the best in the country, plus it has a great history. Looking forward to seeing it again at SCR9.

[70 copo]

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I just took a look at mine and it is an 06B build date and has original body panels and paint. Nothing appears to have been touched.

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Please post up some photos!!!

COPO and others... Looking forward to seeing all of you at SCR-9.

Phil

[69LM1]

Someone here just bought a 70 Copo Z for I believe mid forty's, and many thought that a "good" deal. A regular 70 Z is selling for what, mid twenty's? I think Phil's math is probably pretty close. Of course, there are not many changing hands right now, so as many here say, it's worth what someone is willing to spend.

I will say that I have turned down 40k for mine.

You could make the same argument about the 69 COPO's vs. Yenko's. I do not think there is a whole lot of (if any) performance differances, yet the Yenko's demand a much higher price than the Copo's. You are buying the history/name (IMHO). In fact, without the Yenko history, you could make the argument that the regular Copo was in fact superior as it was produced and sold by GM, and the Yenko's are a dealer car, therefore sort of a "day 2" concept.

Same with the 70 Copo Z's. And they are alot harder to authenticate, so when one is air tight, I would think that is worth a premium.

What HP did the 350 duece have? Not being smart, just wondering cause the last time this conversation came up someone mentioned that the 70 Copo Z's were not in the supercar class as they were small blocks and I did not think of the Deuce's then!

Of course, now that I have one I am a bit biased


Rich

[70 copo]

Rich,

I have to agree. Mine was wanted because it was a COPO.

Phil

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

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What HP did the 350 duece have? Not being smart, just wondering cause the last time this conversation came up someone mentioned that the 70 Copo Z's were not in the supercar class as they were small blocks and I did not think of the Deuce's then!

Of course, now that I have one I am a bit biased


Rich

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The Yenko Deuce Novas have the Z28's LT1 - including the same application codes for 4sp & a/t's. The Deuce is a SuperCar bec/ the COPO #9010 & #9737 were drivetrain performance items, whereas the '70 COPO Z's were a spoiler change. If I recall the debate, it was regarding whether the spoiler change was considered a performance enhancement vs. an SCCA homogulation requirement.

Either way, both are cool cars - but then, I might be a bit biased too

[70 copo]

Marlin,

I knew you would chime in!! Clairification-As I recall the Deuce was created to beat the insurance companies as they attempted to rate hike the supercar out of existance-that is why there was no Big Block Yenkos built in 1970. Right?

They were and are both very cool cars, both getting the LT-1 from the "Corvette" option list.

Phil

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I'm sure Don had several reasons in mind for the Deuce copo's, one of which we feel was also SCCA homogulation - hence the similarities to the BOSS 302's. There were plans for Yenko big block products in '70, but alas, there were plenty of '69's on the lots!

Don't confuse the motives of Yenko with GM - I don't think GM created the copo to beat the insurance companies GM approved the Deuce copos bec/ Don was buying 'em.



There might just be a showdown on SCR9 betw/ a Deuce and a '70 Z