Possible COPO on ebay

[Leonard]

Joe, talked to seller this morning about disc brakes. He stated that there were drum brakes on car. I told him to check upper control arms(upper a-frames) to see if there was a hole pierced and threaded for disc brake line retaining bracket(drum brakes do not have this)and he mentioned that he had problems with the brake lines in the past because of drum brakes. He did not tell me what the problem was.I also noticed the wider master cylider but forgot to have him get the # from it for me.

[Rick H]

This guy thinks he might have a possible COPO because someone looked at 13 hazy pictures and made an "educated" guess that it's a COPO????

Must be the reason his NO RESERVE auction now has a statement with a $20,000 dollar ending price.

"My Brother said due to numerous phone bids he will accept twenty thousand to end auction". I bet he would, I know I would if it was mine and someone offered me $20k. Can you say SOLD!?

Could be a BB car, could be a COPO, heck it could be the rare and ellusive X44 Z/28. Why not, it has a Z/28 emblem on the tailpanel.

All BS aside, I truely hope someone looks at this car in person before they buy to make absolutely sure what they are getting. Ebay is a haven for junk, fakes and wannabees.

Rick H.

p.s. got feeling we'll be seeing an auction ending early because item is not longer for sale.

[Leonard]

Rick H, im the someone that looked at the picture and had a phone conversation with the seller. Yes, this car needs to be inspected well before any $$ has passed hands. From my conversation and info obtained, i realized it had some key items that make it a POSSIBLE COPO. BE rear is gone, daul exhaust plate is gone, It has the cowl induction piercing in correct location along with muncie trans speedocable piercing in firewall, and info found on trim tag that is consistant with most other COPOs built that time frame. Any info i have posted on this site is base on my opinion(from research and data).All i am saying is, if someone is looking for a COPO on a lower $$ scale, They should look at this car and inspect it well.It has some of the key items found on COPOs. IMO.

[SuperNovaSS]

How does a dual exhaust plate that is welded to the frame disappear?


Jason

[69LM1]

The Tubbing maybe?

[SuperNovaSS]

Ooops, that makes since.


Jason

[69hurstSC]

shes taking off. 15K

[69hurstSC]

is the verdict in? COPO on Non-COPO???

[camarojoe]

Say what you will, but based on what I see and what Leo has come up with, there's enough evidence to warrant a closer look. If the cowl induction piercings are original, and the tags haven't been messed with, an X44 with original cowl induction can be a real good clue, as the only way an X44 could have had factory C.I. is if it was a COPO. Add to that the big block heater core, the 309 master cylinder, the fact its 10 numbers away from a known COPO, and you have quite a few things that point in the right direction. Yeah, it would be great if there was a stack of original paperwork, and "documentation" but usually thats not gonna be there on a ratty old car, so you gotta look for all the right clues that are still there. If anyone's near Eastlake Ohio and has some $ to play with, this is definitely worth a closer look and could very well be the real deal. If everything looks right, it could be another real COPO car found for a price that is within reach for someone. JMO.

[396L35]

I would have to agree with Joe on this call. Most of the COPO camaros were bought with the intension of racing... Some cars were lucky and not cut on, but some cars were successful in racing and updated so they could go faster... This car has some interesting points and knowing it was built 10 cars away from a documented COPO raises an eye... I just hope this doesn't get as bad as it did with that Yenko car a year ago or so... Good luck to whoever ends up with that ratty "POS".. I just love how they mounted the guages in the car!!!