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Maybe they will sell the manifolds/carbs at "Employee Prices"! That brainstorm just about put them out of business, a little more couldn't hurt...
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the employee pricing just moved all of the stagnant inventory off the lots and kept people working, otherwise they would have had to shut down quite a few assembly plants and lay people off.
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the employee pricing just moved all of the stagnant inventory off the lots and kept people working, otherwise they would have had to shut down quite a few assembly plants and lay people off. [/ QUOTE ] Sadly, this is probably coming anyway! ![]() ![]() ![]() Steve
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Until they (the automakers) start producing cars to demand instead of to capacity they are going to bleed red ink.
Just because you have capacity doesn't mean you have to use it. All you do is flood the market and drive the price down. The one who wins the price war is the one who is the lowest cost producer... which is not the US makers with their legacy costs. Overproduction and Price wars have killed Ford and GM. They need to close their highest cost facilities concentrate on platforms that yield the most different vehicles with the fewest number of production changes and run with it... Unless they change quickly the Chinese are going to destroy them.
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OK...novel idea...screw the Chinese cars...don't let them come here...sell them to all the people who can't afford to buy them in China...at what point do we stop selling all our technology , all our old companies and prime real estate to foreign concerns ? Sorry..I'm sick of it. We sell the technology , they do it cheaper with what amounts to slave labor and our places go out of business..a little protectionism is long overdue...global economy my ass
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Amen brother
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Bob,
Well said! But, it gets a little deeper than that I think. We as a country need to realize ( remember ) that the manufacturing base is what made the USA what it is today. No one wants to get their hands dirty once they go through college it seems. They want MBA's and quick profits. That line of thinking is what got us in this pickle. Enough ! We have lost much of our great spirit to thinking like the Clintons used with NAFTA and the like. Remember, we were going to re-train all of the displaced manufacturing workers for "hi-tech" jobs. MY ASS! Those people are out of work - period. I changed from a Design Engineer to a Manufacturing Engineer many years ago because I believe in the mfg. base as our future competitive advantage. I get sick every time I hear about the Chinese this, the Chinese that...... The Chinese not know s**t. Only what we taught them and what the stole. Sorry if that offends anyone here. I deal with this every day. Clients tell me, "If I send this mold project to China, we can get it built for 1/3 the cost." Quality is not nearly as good there, but they are getting better. We need to start thinking about the United States of America as just that - UNITED! We need to unite as a country to build the good products we need as a country, and at a reasonable price. Note that I mentioned reasonable, not the cheapest. If Americans can be "taught" to realize that our future depends on our collective success, then we will be far better off. ![]() Sorry for the rant...... Now, back to SHP BBC's !!!!! ![]() Steve
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the employee pricing just moved all of the stagnant inventory off the lots and kept people working, otherwise they would have had to shut down quite a few assembly plants and lay people off. [/ QUOTE ] I am very actively involved with the retail auto business and have many GM dealer clients. They all agree that the incentives, the rebates, the special financing,etc. have to stop! The big three aren't selling cars, they are selling "the deal". Last summer was a perfect example of how the factories truly feel about the industry..they were in complete panic mode. Your local Chevy dealer wasn't selling cars he was delivering them after GM sold them on TV. All that was accomplished with the "employee deals" was a quick pull ahead of future sales. By October most of my dealer clients were sitting around and looking out the window. America needs to sell Value, Integrity & Quality and do it without a bunch of smoke and mirrors. For the US auto industry to recover they need to resolve the union cost issues and take the "rebate" needle out of their arm! Until then, the cycle of ups and downs will just continue.... wilma ![]()
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The problem is that once you give a rebate and the public gets accustomed to it they will wait to buy until the dealers have to offer it because of low sales. I doubt the dealers can hold on long enough to educate the public that they are not going to offer a rebate anymore. So the tail wags the dog and the US goes down the crapper.
There is no easy definative answer to this delema. The high labor and perks of the past are killing the industries. There are so many empty buildings back in the industral areas here is it scary. Where did those companys go? Where did the workers go? one thing for sure when they go it hurts the rest that are left. I hope enough people can learn to like the golden arches as that may wind up the only place you can get a job in the future. Scary..... Pantera ![]()
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Yeah,
But the Eastern Indians don't eat beef! So when they take over all the Micky-D's too, we will be eating something ( non-beef ) with curry...... ![]() infidels so we can poision outself to our hearts content. Steve
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