$200K 1969 Z-28

[Jerry@CHP]

Charlie,

I stated that information because you were tending to bash the car that I have......."The Barrett-Jackson car has 11000 miles. I think Jerry's had over twice the mileage." Like a 28K mileage car with all original parts intact is a POS survivor compaired to the one sold at BJ? You don't know for certain that the 11K car mileage car is real, and it appears that most clear thinking Camaro hobbyists on this site think that this car had more than maintenance issues.

I never received your private message about selling or posting my car.

Thanks,

Jerry

[Charley Lillard]

Jerry...I sent the private message at 10:43 am yesterday. It is probably still there. You are right. I don't know for certain that the 11K mile car is real but from the looks and history I believe it is. The 11K mile car appears to be what it is, blemishes and all. I would expect your car to have no blemishes. You are in the car business and restore parts etc. If your car had the wrong water pump, I would think you would find the right pump. The 11K mile Z28 has all it's flaws out in plain sight. I have no idea if you had to do anything to your car and I don't really care. I am not bashing your car but you seem determined to bash the auction car. Given the lower miles of the auction car and I believe someone said it had not been titled I would rather have the auction car.

[Jerry@CHP]

Charlie,

And as you said before, we will just have to agree to disagree. I do know from the many years of my experience in my business that many dealers who sell cars misrepresent them. Do you know how many restamped Camaro engines I saw at the auction that were represented as "numbers matching"? Many! I see this 80% of the time when traveling to classic car dealers and high-volume sellers/flippers. Honesty and integrity is not what this hobby is about anymore. Unfortunately, it's all about money today! There is a big part of me that wishes these cars were not as valuable as they've become. That would make many of the law suits go away and tend to keep this hobby honest and to the true Camaro lover and not the Camaro investor-seller.

You for example have had the good fortune and luxury of owning several ZL1 Camaros. I will never have that luxury because the value of ZL1's have gone throught the roof. Even if I never get to own one, I do have the teenage memories of seeing these cars in the dealer showroom when they were new (Jerry Govans, AD Anderson, and Sport Chevrolet). I also got to hang out with a couple of locals who raced these cars when they were new.........and those memories are priceless.

Thanks,

Jerry

[chevjon396]

I have known Jerry McNeish for a very long time (since 1989). I know first hand what he looks for when considering a car's quality and value. In the matter of this particular 1969 Z28 Camaro, I would absolutely trust his opinion of what this car really is and at looking at the photos posted on the Barrett-Jackson site of the under hood picture I am more trusting of his opinion.

jon

[69SS350]

I nominate Jerry MacNeish for Camaro President!!!!


On a more serious note, I also have had the previlege of being one of Jerry's friends since oh ...1989 too.

I can honestly say that there isn't anyone, and I mean anyone, who love's and appreciates these cars for what they are.....an enthusiasts car, more than him.

Knowing that, I can really see his concern about whrere these cars and the Camaro hobby in general is going.

It's a real shame that the folks who don't own one of these cars now and wants one, will probably never be able to afford it....

[SMGCO]

The bottom line is that a very low mileage original and documented 69 z is not worth 200,000. They are not worth 100,000 either. For that matter 50,000 is stretching it.

[Schonyenko2]

I talked with a friend from Moline Ill today who has been involved with racing, and muscle cars on that side of the river for a long time. I asked about that Z that went through the auction as it showed the Mills/Moline on the tail panel. He said Bud Mills the dealership owner, let his son drive that car. Never titled it. Just kept it as a dealership car. Later sold it to another dealer who for some reason didn't title it either. Said the kid was not afraid to drive it.

[Salvatore]

I know one thing for sure....I hang out with Jerry at the drags on occasion and he is one HECK of a driver and that Old Reliable is one HECK of a car! Can't wait till the spring. Maybe even a national record this year!!

[af1fe]

I know that Jerry has never been one to beat around the bush on a car. He is the first one to say "The king is naked". I was lucky enough to be able to work for this man and to see first hand how meticulous he is in going over each and every Camaro. It was almost painful to see him document and keep records. No pun intended, but if ever there was a person "reliable" enough to be called a Camaro Expert, it would be Jerry MacNeish. Again, he has never been afraid to call the baby ugly (he may come across a little ruff, but face it, the truth hurts!). I have traveled with him to appraise and certify cars many times, and yes a majority of them are exactly as advertised. Have you ever seen the face of someone who has blown $60,000 for a car, then hire Jerry to certify it and then to find out it was a clone? Jerry has been to court many times, called upon as an expert witness, to testify. The reason people call on Jerry to certify their cars, to check out cars they want to purchase, is because he knows his business and his reputation is second to none. If there are any other "experts" out there please chime in, you know what I am talking about. I would like to nominate Jerry to replace Bill O'Reilly.

[Jerry@CHP]

To SMGCO,

Regarding your comments on the values of 1969 Z28's. We have done a lot of home work and research on this subject and in today's market pre BJ, a nice original survivor 69 Z would have a value in the $60-100K range. Restored cars are in the $60-70K range. As I stated before, BJ does raise the values on these cars but not through the roof as the $205K Z28. And now after reading the post here from SchonYenko2 who knows the dealership and owner, there might be more skeletons in the closet of this green survivor car than originally thought. Throw a dealer tag on the car and drive. Another reason why many of these parts were changed........and who knows what the actual mileage is?

Thanks again guys for your support here. I do appreciate it and it appears that all my hard work and dedication to this hobby has paid off.

Jerry