$200K 1969 Z-28

[Kim_Howie]

Jerry,I think we need to bring "Litte Hoss" out and have match race at the reunion this year!!!!! Kim

[Jerry@CHP]

Kim,

Yes we do! I am glad I'm retiring the Stickler Z28 after this season. By the trends I am seeing the money being thrown at these cars is off the charts. It makes me wonder if I could retire with a sale of the Old Reliable Z28? I am building a new 67 Z28 for Stock Eliminator and it will be fun to run a car under my own identity.

Jerry

[Kim_Howie]

Sounds good !!

[RamAirDave]

So if that green 11K mile Z brought $205K, where would that put the 1800 mile black, stripe delete RS Z?

dave

[Mr70]

In my garage if I could..

[Hylton]

I'd be surprised if anyone can pull that car away from Maksym.

[Late BrakeU2]

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So if that green 11K mile Z brought $205K, where would that put the 1800 mile black, stripe delete RS Z?

dave

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In a setting like BJ with Liquid bidders outrageous is a relative term.Makes you wonder what the Estes car would command there..

[Charley Lillard]

Anyone thinking they can match the price this Z28 got just needs to step up to the plate and sell their car at no reserve. Any takers ? Think Richard Maksym will put his up at no reserve ? I don't have the balls to let my prized posession go at no reserve. This is about taking chances. Is Jerry going to put Old reliable up at no reserve and let us scrutinize it very closely ? Will he put his Z28 up at no reserve ? This green Z28 took a chance and hit a home run. Most of what Jerry listed wrong with the car appears related to adding a cowl hood and maintainance. Jerry's car also has had a cowl hood added and paint work done. No big deal.

[Jeff H]

It seems to be more of an issue about the car being a low mileage(11,000 miles isn't really that low) and untitled car. It obviously isn't an untouched car so that leaves people wondering why it sold for $205K. We could guess and speculate all day, but this situation won't happen again so why bother. I know of a lower mileage 69 Z28 in my area. I'm not gonna tell the guy his car is now worth $205K just because one sold for that at BJ. His car is title in his father's name(the original owner) so it can't be compared to this dealer car. Just imagine what this dealer car would have gone for if it was truly untouched and untitled!

[Jerry@CHP]

Charlie brings up many good points here. Yes, you do have to step up to the plate in the seller's seat. You can hit a home run on a sale and it can go the other way too. I've seen that happen many times. In the case of this 69 Z that sold for over $200K, I think it was a dealer that bought the car? Maybe Charlie would know better about who the players are here and can fill us in. Dealers and sellers that are in the business have a much better idea about the market and where to sell. People who don't do this everyday have a much better chance of getting burned. Experience is the key. I would not put the 69 Z28 survivor that I purchased up for sale without a reserve. I work too hard for my money and I'm not going to throw it away on a pipe dream that I'll get $200K for my car but I want fair market value. Most of the nice cars don't even go through auctions, they are sold privately.

Getting back to the green car that sold at BJ. There were more than maintenance issues here. I have seen dozens of survivor cars over the past 20 years or so with more mileage than 12K and in every case, 95% of the original parts were still on the car. 69SS350 brings up very good points about the car as I stated earlier. These are valid issues but if the buyer does not care, than he takes the risk. Barrett Jackson does not set the everyday sales figures for these Camaros but it does raise the sales barometer to a higher level. Count on that.

One last point, after looking through my appraisal records over the past 10 years, every original paint low mileage Camaro that I've inspected has still had it's original exhaust on the car. Think of it this way, if the paint lives in an environment that is healthy to the vehicle, the exhaust system will survive too. Most parts fail because they are in the everyday hostile elements. Cars that live a pampered life will fair much better. Make sense? As to the pedal pads, I looked at the ones in my race car, I have 12 seasons (12 years) of letting the clutch out, braking at 122mph, shifting gears and beating the hell out of the car. The Srickler car's pads are in mint condition compared to the ones in the green Z28. This is one issue that would make me wonder about the true mileage of this Z28. Many certified appraisers look for the same tell tails