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01-12-2006, 11:22 PM
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Re: 70 RS Z28
Sample of a vette 1965 327/300
http://ww2.netnitco.net/users/rclark...e/padstamp.jpg 1965 vette http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-...2/IM001941.jpg It's unusual to find either an engine plant stamp or an assembly plant VIN stamp where the characters all have absolutely equal depth and definition; there were many variables involved in the length and wear of the individual dies, angle at which the holder was held, direction of the hammer blow, etc. Many restamps, however, are "perfect".
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01-12-2006, 11:30 PM
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Re: 70 RS Z28
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You'd think so  Prob done at different locations. [/ QUOTE ] Good example w/ this '73 unit shown....I can't figure out how to include pics? . Anyway, all 9 digits are on this example engine pad shown so would be exactly the same on the rest of the stamped partial Vin locations. . If one of the digits was upside-down or missing it would be the same on all other stamped partial Vin locations. . With the subject thread car missing the first two digits, if genuine the other locations should have the same mistake. ~ Pete
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01-12-2006, 11:33 PM
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Re: 70 RS Z28
Same with this 68 Camaro. 2 sizes of stamps. So there are 2 stamping dies that are used.
 Partial VIN is "18U199887" The partial VIN can also be on the oil filter flange instead of on the pad with the engine code. The 70 should be stamped on the pad and by the oil filter flange. Where the 68 may only be in one of the 2.
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01-12-2006, 11:50 PM
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Re: 70 RS Z28
Yes we know the engine/suffix stamp is larger....it's the partial Vin only that I'm referring to. . Aside from user quirks, all locations should be the same exact stamping, mistakes and all. . The subject car needs other partial Vin locations viewed to compare to the engine pad w/ missing digits. . Thanks! ~ Pete
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01-13-2006, 04:33 AM
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Re: 70 RS Z28
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Same with this 68 Camaro. 2 sizes of stamps. So there are 2 stamping dies that are used. Partial VIN is "18U199887" The partial VIN can also be on the oil filter flange instead of on the pad with the engine code. The 70 should be stamped on the pad and by the oil filter flange. Where the 68 may only be in one of the 2. [/ QUOTE ] Your example is very wrong. The engine you posted did not come out of a 1968 Camaro. No Camaros were built in Lordstown, Ohio. That motor actually came out of 1969 passenger car. "HK" was used in 1969 to designate 350/300 with powerglide. The number before the "U" is a "9". "U" is for Lordstown, Ohio. Passenger cars were built at Lordstown. Also 1968 Camaro VIN's started with 300001 and 1969 Camaro started with 500001. So that motor never came out of Camaro. Also I have yet to see a 1968 motor with the partial VIN stamped in the rough casting by the oil filter. Rick H.
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01-13-2006, 07:38 AM
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Re: 70 RS Z28
oops
Also a partial VIN will be on the pad, IE 70N123456 I meant 1 where the 7 is. Blond moment. The picture and info about the 68 was from a tag site. My only intention was to show the 2 different font sizes.
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1970 Z28 M22, 3.73, Z21, Z87
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01-20-2006, 04:11 AM
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Re: 70 RS Z28
I just bought this car officially on tues. You can imagine how shocked I was when a friend of mine sent me this link. When I saw it was my new car being questioned I nearly puked!!! Until I saw the forum I was completely happy with my new baby. I have been looking for about 1 1/2 years for the right car and it always seemed to elude me. Some just plain went for too much or the one I really wanted at Legendary Motorcar in June I missed by 24 hrs. because I waited to phone them instead of E-mailing them immediately.To make a long story short, I thought I missed this one as well when it first went off e-bay. When my wife found it relisted I took it as fate. I jumped on this one. To my novice knowledge I was satisfied everything was proper. I once vowed to not buy w/o docs but somehow I felt secure with this one. Documentation always seemed to put the price up just out of my reach. BUYER BEWARE!!! No one but myself to blame for my now bleeding ulcer and baggy eyes. I want to make it clear I don not blame the seller in any way. I think some of you know who he is and I want to make it clear, every option was put before me to verify things and I opted for blind faith. Is there anyone who can share some insight to how big a mistake I've made or not made. Regardless, I intend to enjoy this car to the fullest. It's only money right! I can drive this puppy without fear of depreiciation. I intend on using AAAuto Transport to get it here. Cheapest, and most helpfull out of 40 phone calls. Any Red FLAGS on this decision? Hope to get more sleep tonight. Thanks, Gord
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#10
01-20-2006, 04:31 AM
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Re: 70 RS Z28
I think as long as u are happy with the purchase that,s all that matters
 u and your family will have a blast in that car  .Anyone can pick apart even the highest quality car if they have the knowledge about the make or model heck its 36 yrs old,Think of it this way u could have paid twice as much for that same car at B.J  .
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