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Old 01-01-2006, 08:36 PM
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your shop should be able to deck it without losing the stamping
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Old 01-01-2006, 08:47 PM
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If you can't rebuild that engine without touching that pad you need to go somewhere else. Or just do the heads and leave it alone. Taking anything at all off thet pad is not needed and shouldn't be done. There are great head gaskets out there that seal very well.

"The bottom end was still perfect. No significant wear on the crank, cylinders, and bearings." Why change pistons or bore it ? Do you drive it enough that you need to run on pump gas ? If I were in the market for your car I would have alot less interest in it if you do what you are planning. Orig pistons, bore ,high compression etc is what makes it cool. Especially that untouched pad.
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Old 01-02-2006, 12:28 AM
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Yes, Charley, I do. I'm driving to L.A. next June for the POCI convention and I hit a lot of car shows in the Central Valley and Northern California, about 10-15k a year.

I agree, I would like to find some high quality stock flat top piston's for the 454 but there are not a lot of great choices compared to :30 over. After all, everyone who rebuilds their engine usually goes one size larger and the market reflects that.

I think you're comment about using a good set of gaskets has merit. But, good engine builders don't like to go halfway and would like the straightest surface possible to mate with the heads.

This car is a keeper and I don't plan on selling it. So, I'm not concerned about the value for the next owner. It's a driver that is a lot of fun.

However, you're absolutely correct that there has to be a way to deck the block while protecting the pad numbers and will do everything possible to reach that end.

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Old 01-02-2006, 04:40 AM
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flat tops in a big block????

no wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

you looking for 7.0 comp ratio??

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Old 01-02-2006, 09:01 AM
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With closed chamber LS6 109c.c. heads,..about 9.5:1.
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Old 01-02-2006, 10:57 AM
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The factory built the LS6 and the ZL1 and the L88 and the xxx, all with broached (not decked) blocks. Seems like they all ran fine like that, including your block.
Decking is kinda like a 4 bolt main. Makes you feel good, but really doesn't do much. In this case, I agree it is a big negative.
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Old 01-02-2006, 05:36 PM
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you can resurface the deck and save the stamp by using a special bridgeport machine, your shop should know about it. Basically it swirl cuts up until you get to the stamping area and then flat/straight cuts it from there. They did it on my 70 L78 and it came out perfect. Good luck
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