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Its a clone because the car assigned that Vin, trim tag, and drivetrain are not with the car they came with, they are in a 6 cylinder car. [/ QUOTE ] With that sort of logic, it almost would seem that a "clone" of what was there originally would be when a replacement/restamped non-original drivetrain is installed in that original body. That's a replication of what was originally there, but isn't anymore. Blow the motor, replace it with something that appears to represent what was there, it's now a clone. They didn't put the shells together any differently between a 6 cyl. Camaro/Nova and a big block SS or Yenko Camaro/Nova...... A shell is a shell is a shell..... It's that engine option on the order form and engineering bill of materials that made that VIN represent something special and drove all of other special hardware that accompanied it.
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Allen 1970 Nova SS L34 396/350hp, 4-speed, 3.31 gears 1969 Corvette 350/300, 4-speed, 3.36 gears |
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Maybe clone isn't the best choice of words since it at least has the correct tags on it, but the real car is gone and its definitely a rebody or "tag car". "Transplant" even works for me. I still will not ever be conviced a rebody using a non-supercar body is as good or better than fixing the REAL car... but do whatever makes you feel good... My personal definition of a rebody is pretty simple, and I will not ever be conviced that all you need to have a supercar is a set of tags and/or some driveline parts... but I guess some feel thats all you need.. I'm glad at least some people feel the same as I do .
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I know of a Yenko chevelle with another Yenko chevelle's drivetrain in it, what does that make it - a double yenko
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Marlin 70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride) 69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride) 67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride) |
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I know of a Yenko chevelle with another Yenko chevelle's drivetrain in it, what does that make it - a double yenko ![]() [/ QUOTE ] Hey Marlin...right there with you! My head started hurting about 30 posts ago... ![]()
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It's a great subject...
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Don't mess with old farts - age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill! Bullshit and brilliance only come with age and experience. |
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So are TastyKakes!
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So are TastyKakes! [/ QUOTE ] By the way. Their gone!
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Hey....everyone's opinion will be different like in every car deal....but the facts need to be on the table come sale time. . Personal opinions too but a "firewalled" car seems wrong when the true intent becomes transfering the identity of one vehicle to another. . Starting from a cowl section with door posts or more is a different story as the true identity remains intact (and the true identity cowl isn't leftover as spare parts like a firewalled car would). . Certification being the original question, it would depend on what's been certified. . Isn't Ed's service just that the Vin is one of the cars and no inspection of what the car is now? . A person who's willing to put all the restoration, early accident or survivor facts on the table should still be able to be certified but allowing these facts to be known to more than a buyer and noted as such with the certification provided. . Again personal opinions here....not endorsed or affiliated with this station or any person living or dead....operators are standing by....have your charge card ready....opinions may change at midnight tomorrow. ~ Pete
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I agree with you...
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Don't mess with old farts - age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill! Bullshit and brilliance only come with age and experience. |
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Ok here is something to ponder.
Car 1 say a ZL1 Bought new and raced by origional owner. Has ton's of paperwork from day 1 and picture history of car. After 10 years of racing car is so cut, bent and broke that origional owner can't afford to rebuild car using what is left of origional body. Origional owner finds a good doner body and retags car and continues racing car.(Origional body was crushed, hidden vin numbers along with it, since this was just a race car to origional owner) 30 years later "Fred lots a money" buys car and rebuilds back to show condition spending say $??,???. How much is car worth in todays market with the buyer knowing all the story? Car 2 ZL1 Found by "Fred" no history, no paperwork, rusted to the ground. Removes hidden numbers and all tags and puts said pieces on a rust free doner car spending the same $??,??? as on car 1. Now same question how much is car 2 worth? A: 1 worth more B: 2 worth more C: 1 and 2 worth same D: None of the above
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