69 Camaro Body in the Crate

[Mark_C]

I would assume that's only true if you transfer those peices of sheetmetal to another "vehicle". Since by definition these body tubs are not vehicles in themselves, but "passenger motor vehicle equipment" by the referenced code above.

[njsteve]

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I would assume that's only true if you transfer those peices of sheetmetal to another "vehicle". Since by definition these body tubs are not vehicles in themselves, but "passenger motor vehicle equipment" by the referenced code above.

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I dont mean to sound pompous on this subject matter but legally, I know what I'm talking about. The simple statutory definitions you cite do not hold any weight as precedent. You may reasonably believe that a common sense interpretation of them would support your position but unfortunately it does not. Case law is what the Court would have to base their opinion upon. And this is a new, unexplored, legal territory. Someone is going to have to be the "test case guniea pig" on this matter. I would not want to be the person who rivets their old VIN and firewall tag on one of these bodies and then tries to slip it through their local motor vehicle inspection station. You're bound to run into an inspector who knows about these new replacement bodies and then seizes the car as evidence of VIN tampering. Until some revision to the existing Federal Stautes is created, I think the only way to register one of them properly would be to apply for a state issued VIN number, just like the street rod builders do.

Then again, that's just my completely unbiased, semi-official, $500 an hour, legal opinion. Now where do I send my bill to?

[ANDY M]

Charley? Belair?

[olredalert]

NJSteve,

-------I can see some of what you are saying, but what inspector is going to look at your new body if you already own and have titled to you the old one? Heck, if the old rust-bucket is even plated how will anyone know to look. I dont think doing this kind of a switch is of interest to me but I cant see, under my criteria, where the problem would be, at least here in MI.!!!............Bill S

[njsteve]

Through my travels I have met quite a few motor state vehicle managers, employees, inspectors, etc. They are briefed on new issues relating to motor vehicle fraud quite frequently. They are aware of these new bodies and I imagine they are waiting for the first one to show up with a 1969 VIN tag attached to it, and then they'll have to deal with it in person. I just wouldn't want to be the guy who just sunk $50K into a repro-bodied car that might just get confiscated while the whole process gets sorted out through the courts.

Hey, when do I get my own , , sign? It can read "Damn Lawyers Suck"

[Mark_C]

Well we'll just have to wait and see.

Here comes the coupe version. The prototype is at the SEMA show now. Supposed to retail somewhere between 10 and 13K.

[njsteve]

All legal arguing aside, that is still totally amazing! I wonder if they are going to dip them in an E-coating instead of merely spray primering them?

[rpoz11]

Now that I can see the actual dash panel having the DOT GM VIN locations present, this disturbes me even more!

Seems to me ever more each day that all of us who have the original cars still left to get onto an authorized responsible Registry!
We should get this done before all of the low lifers with bad intentions, aka that Canadian joker Charley outed, get that bird flu thats going around and try to fake some orignal cars, before it's tooooo late!

Carrol Shelby ran into some problems with the so called few remaining AC bodies he had left over(??? ) not too long ago...whatever occured with him attempting to title and register those bodies as actual original cars?

Do we anywhere on this board have an Attorney and a Law Enforcement employee with sufficient credibility who could offer up some real time answers on these reproduction bodies?

[njsteve]

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Do we anywhere on this board have an Attorney and a Law Enforcement employee with sufficient credibility who could offer up some real time answers on these reproduction bodies?


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Go back a page and re-read.

[americanmusclecars]

The body panels are E-coated. However, before they can be spot-welded together the E-coat must be removed to assure complete metal contact on both ends of the spot welder to make a perfect weld. Upon completion the car will then be primed or sent as is if so requested by end user.