Would this car be considerd a COPO

[70 copo]

Mark,

Your posts are getting a little dry. I will assume that I and others may be taking them wrong... Your comparison of a 67 0-1 IPC to a taxi Cab is a little insulting - don't you think?

As Who thinks of them? Some 427 COPO Guys years ago may have looked down on a Yenko 350 Nova... and some of the other COPO's... If it was built a COPO - then it was a COPO.

Your comment above pertaining to COPO's:

"Quite possibly these cars may have been ordered using the COPO process, but until that is proven I doubt anyone will consider them COPO's as we commonly think of them"

As who thinks of them?? Either they were built COPO by Chevrolet or not...

Please keep an open mind here....

Phil

[Jeff H]

I have to agree with Mark on his point of view and obviously that's what it is, a point of view or opinion. To me, the term COPO is special in that it represents the 1969 Camaros or Chevelle that were factory built with the 427 engine. That makes them a supercar and a special vehicle to me. There were a ton of other COPO vehicles built but for the most part those vehicles aren't really supercars(maybe the 68 Novas with the L78/auto). If a 67 Camaro went through a COPO process to be ordered up as a Pace Car replica, that's some pretty cool history but not a supercar in my mind. If it was done through a COPO process then it could be considered a COPO. But the term COPO is now being overused to try and hype the value of cars when the option(s) added could be pretty basic. Once again, to me a COPO is a 69 427 Camaro or Chevelle.

[Zedder]

Thanks Jeff...at least someone understands me

Phil, the comparisson between taxi cabs and IPC's was made earlier by someone else to prove a point that all COPO's are not 427 cars as the term has come to represent by many enthusiasts. Again, I could really care less and just got into this discussion to express MY opinion, which I believe I am entitled to. I do not want to get into a pissing match with you or anyone else regarding this matter - it just doesn't mean enough to me to argue about it. Frankly, the only reason I even got involved was because it involved the Canadian cars of which I owned one and have paperwork for all of the others. That's the extent of my interest.

You have your opinion and I would never try and deny you that. It is my belief that this thread is attempting to tie some extra value to the IPC's because they are COPO's and I don't agree with that. I think they have value for what they are and that's that. But if others think differently that's fine with me. I am out of this discussion now as I have nothing further to add

[Pacecarjeff]

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Should Tom allow taxi cabs ordered through the COPO process to attend the reunion too?

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I thought that it was a Supercar Reunion.
If you feel that Taxi Cabs are Supercars - let them in.

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I have to agree with Mark on his point of view and obviously that's what it is, a point of view or opinion. To me, the term COPO is special in that it represents the 1969 Camaros or Chevelle that were factory built with the 427 engine.

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I think you are confused.
A Supercar is a 427 car or high performance special request.
COPO stands for "Central Office Production Order".


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Only Tom can speak to whether they should be allowed at the reunion, but I don't think that a 325hp Camaro would be considered a "Supercar".

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Who ever said that I thought my 325hp car is a Supercar.
All I am saying is that these are;
Central Office Production Order - Special Events cars.
Any one who would say that they are Supercars would be mistaken.
These cars were made in fewer numbers than the Yenkos, and the cars with no fleet codes were made in fewer numbers than the ZL-1's.
The 67 IPC 0-1 Cars were the ultimate COPO cars.
Special ordered Show cars with direct quality control from Chevrolet upper management.


I guess you think that that 68 Z/28 Convertible is not a "COPO" car beacuse it only has the special folding top.

The Canadian cars with no fleet code, (mine)
appears at this point to be the only one.

I am only trying to figure out the process it went through to get made.
DON'T WORRY I WON'T SHOW UP AT YOUR REUNION.

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But the term COPO is now being overused to try and hype the value of cars when the option(s) added could be pretty basic. Once again, to me a COPO is a 69 427 Camaro or Chevelle.

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Are you REALLY woried about what the general public thinks?
If so then maybe the Supercars are not so "super" after all.
A new Corvette will eat any one of the "Supercars" for breakfast.

Again we are talking about a car that need special permission to be made. A car that needed to go through a production loophole to be produced. A COPO car, not a "Supercar".



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I could really care less and just got into this discussion to express MY opinion.

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Mark, WHY DON'T YOU CARE - You are a Camaro guy?

[Belair62]

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the term COPO is special in that it represents the 1969 Camaros or Chevelle that were factory built with the 427 engine.

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[Keith Tedford]

I have a GM of Canada COPO Service Parts catalogue #749 1967-1974. 419 pages of part numbers and descriptions. Haven't see one thing about the 427 Camaros, Chevelles or LT1 Novas. Guess they weren't important enough to be listed. Lots of truck stuff though such as air tank moisture ejection valves etc. Thought I had hit on a gold mine until I started reading.

[70CitrusZ]

In the end,(imho) the only copo's that are of any extra interest due to the "copo" name are the 427 and corvette engine transplant copos or "super cars".

The term supercar is generally assigned to the 427 transplant cars, and I think the only non 427 cars that slip into that group originally are the 350/360hp nova, and perhaps surprisingly, the corvair.
As as side note, although taxi cabs and fleet pick up trucks may have been copo's who cares.
The fact is there were probably a great many copo orders for cars that are of no special interest.

Also, a pace car is cool on its own, but I would not call a 325hp 396 powered Camaro a supercar.
Its an option car like a z-28 or an ss.

Officially, some may very well have been built on a copo basis,but only to facilitate an extended production of a limited time offering, not because of any special performance option.
just my .02.
Mark.

[hvychev]

Hey Jeff what about The Stingers, Deuces, Gibb Novas etc?

[Jeff H]

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Hey Jeff what about The Stingers, Deuces, Gibb Novas etc?

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Yeah, I forgot about the LT1 Novas. The Stingers never really jumped out at me as a great performance car like the 427 and LT1's. But like I said, this is what makes the term COPO exciting to me.

[1967Z28]

Is it possible to see a picture of the cowl tag for the car in question? Neat, historical car regardless of whether it was ordered via the COPO system or not.

-Jon