NICB REPORT

**Salvatore** · #1 10-22-2005, 02:23 AM

Thats the problem I am up against. I have a "BY BERGER" (which is an original emblem) on my 69-Z. Can't find any paper work and called Berger at least 3X.

JChlupsa · #2 10-22-2005, 02:57 AM

Wont find any paperwork with Berger, They didnt keep the old files.

Tommy_Mathison · #3 10-22-2005, 03:13 AM

What exactly is on a NICB report?

**COPO** · #4 10-22-2005, 03:28 AM

For older cars, the shipping date from the factory and the original selling dealer are the only useful info.

**njsteve** · #5 10-22-2005, 04:02 AM

NICB is the National Insurance Crime Bureau. They retains records for statistical purposes on every vehicle ever produced by the factory. The record includes only the VIN, the dealer destination by dealership code # and the date of shipment from the assembly plant. It is not an all encompassing data base, as there are gaps: if the production records were never furnished to them back in the day by a particular assembly plant, then they dont have the records now.

....And no I don't have access, sorry

They could make a bunch of $$$ if they simply charged people a few bucks each to get the data. Kind of like Pontiac Historical for all makes, but only for the dealer info. I do agree if you have a car from a particularly famous dealership it would be gold mine of info documenting the pedigree of the car. The other use is verifying a VIN on cars with an engine code in the VIN. For example, if someone magically finds another 71 hemicuda convertible and the VIN is hypothetically BS27R1B100001, but the NICB only has a record on a VIN of BS27N1B100001, they just documented a $4,000,000 case of fraud and VIN tampering, a federal offense.

**BARN FIND** · #6 10-22-2005, 04:16 AM

Just last week I was in my Insurance Agents office and I asked if they knew anything about the NICB because I have a classic auto I would like to know more about. Guess what, they didn't have a clue what I was talking about, and they didn't offer to try to find out.

**njsteve** · #7 10-22-2005, 04:26 AM

NICB is part of ISO but the VIN search is a hands-on search using old microfiche cards from many years ago.

http://www.iso.com/

COPO CARTEL · #8 10-24-2005, 09:10 PM

They generally don't have a clue unless you are putting $$$ in their pockets.

COPO CARTEL · #9 10-24-2005, 09:07 PM

Thank you for shedding some additional light on the subject. I do like your explanation. I was looking for the dalership because of my 70 Hemi Cuda 4 Speed.

COPO CARTEL · #10 10-24-2005, 08:32 PM

You are absolutely correct dealerships only keep info. for 7 to 10 years usually because of the tax man or state requirements.

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