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Old 09-23-2005, 06:08 PM
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Who was the knuckel head that installed the hood pins? They were only on ZL2 Cowl Induction flapper hoods. Non flapper cars did not get the pins, at least on the 396 and 454's. If the 350 did then it's news to me.
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Old 09-23-2005, 06:12 PM
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In 1972,the hood pins were standard on ALL Chevelles with the Super Sport or Heavy Chevy package,regardless of engine size or hood design.
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This same car has been on eBay a time or two before.
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Old 09-23-2005, 07:17 PM
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You have to remember that the front clip was not attatched to the rest of the car when it was painted. Even thought paint from the same batch was supposed to be used the environmental and spray conditions were probably not the same. With heavy metallics (even if the paint came from the same can) differences in humidity, air pressure at the spray gun, gun distance from the panel, and spray pattern could cause the paint to lay out differnet or the metallic to settle different.
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Would the HD side post battery have been correct for this car?
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Old 09-23-2005, 07:57 PM
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Yes,the Delco Side terminal R89 was the standard in 72.

My Very first Car was a Pewter Silver w/blk gut 72 SS like this one.Same options and all.Sold new from Fencl-Tufo Chevrolet in Beautiful Glendale Heights.
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Shouldn't the trim around the instruments be chrome? I have sold a few of the repop dashes and all of them have the silver painted trim. This one looks like a repop.

I just looked at an original dash and it's chrome trimmed.

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The dash trim was originally Vacuum Aluminized metal,and only a few mils thin.
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You have to remember that the front clip was not attatched to the rest of the car when it was painted. Even thought paint from the same batch was supposed to be used the environmental and spray conditions were probably not the same. With heavy metallics (even if the paint came from the same can) differences in humidity, air pressure at the spray gun, gun distance from the panel, and spray pattern could cause the paint to lay out differnet or the metallic to settle different.

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Perhaps I can shed some light on the process for painting the cars in an Assembly Plant since I have approx. 30 years experience in the Paint Shop in an Assembly Plant.

During that time frame, the sheet metal was on a seperate carrier from the body. Also the Sheet metal was "Dip Primed", where the body was Elpo coated and spray primed.
However there was a "Marriage Point" where the sheet metal carrier and the body carriers joined up in sequence so they both went through the paint booths at the same time, sheet metal ahead of the body.

It is my opinion from looking at the photos that one of two things might have happened during the painting process.

1) As the fenders were being processed the Reciprocators that spray the Metallic "Dust Coat" to eliminate the "mottled" (Dark Splotchy appearance) ran out of paint, or were shutdown prematurely due to a mechanical issue and never completed their final strokes on the fenders. That's why the rear lower portion of the fenders shows the most "Off Color" area.
(Recips are mounted in the spray booths and have "Arms" that move in a vertical up / down path with automatic spray guns attached. As the cars go by they paint the sides of the cars and apply a uniform coat of paint that properly orients the metallic flake in the paint to eliminate mottle)

2. The primary color coat applicatios failed to paint the rear lower fenders and part of the upper fender area also. This caused the off color (Dark areas) on the fenders due to the fact that the recip coat does not apply enough paint to achieve "Color Hiding" by itself.

In either instance there is insufficient "Film" build (Paint Thickness) to achieve a proper color match.

Unfortunately, I have been witness to numerous occurrances such as that in our Facility over the past 30 years. Not to say it was OK to ship something like that, but the reality of the situation is that some got out the door back then.

Quality Standards being what they were in the late 60's and early 70's it is not suprising to see a car like that make it out of an Assembly Plant and to the customer.

Additionally as has been pointed out previously, since both sides exhibit the same appearance, it was definitely a "Factory Error" that you see on that car.

Just wanted to share my knowledge with you concerning this and give my opinion of what may have happened.

As for my opinion of the mileage, well perhaps the lady who bought the car didn't like the paint job and couldn't get it repaired by the dealership, so she just decided to park the thing instead of drive it. .........

Just my 2 cents worth ........LOL


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------Cars are not always put away just because someone thinks someday they will be collectable. More often or not, if the car would not be deemed collectable when new then you can figure the car was stored for another reason. Death comes to mind, along with overseas job postings, as well as long term health problems, and many more. When a car is put away for reasons other than purposely keeping it forever or for future monetary gain then all bets are off as to how the car will look when "discovered" years later.
------I once bought, out of the Boston Globe, a 55 Belair 2dr.H.T. with 1100 or so miles. The original older purchaser had passed away 2 years after the car was new. His wife didnt have a drivers license and rarely went in the garage where the car sat. When I first looked at it there were gallon and quart cans of paint glued to the hood with leakage from the improperly replaced lids. All the chrome was mediocre and the tires were absolutely rotten. The cars mileage was undeniable, however, when you looked at the interior.
------The car had to be painted and I tracked down all the chrome NOS (remember this was 1972) to bring it back to an acceptable standard. Sh** happens, so weather this car has the 400 miles or not dont jump to hasty conclusions. It doesnt benefit the seller or you..........Bill S
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