realistic price for 70 Z-28

[70CitrusZ]

John,
That makes perfect sense to me.
I always thought if Roger and Mark had been kept by GM (which is what should have happened)It would have been a different story, not that Hall wasn't capable, but as you state his interests were not in T/Am.

[70CitrusZ]

To get back to the subject though, have we arrived at any concensus on the values?..are good restorations in the 30-40k range?.. also still waiting for my car to come back from bodyshop too..what is it with bodyshops and dragging their heels anyhow????

[owners2]

i own a collision repair shop and there is a shortage of good techs & the good ones are at a point that they don't want to work on the same car everyday for 6 months straight. as for z28 values i have a copper rust free # matching rsz28 that i purchased for 12,000 & i completely gutted the car for resto. i also have a 71 z28 with 16,354 miles 85 % original paint with an l88,dana 60,ansen slots & tall 3 piece(copo) spoiler.dealer invoice, pre-delivery sheet,pro-tecto plate,i gutted the interior but haven't found a build sheet 60,000.

[zmanrc]

I can't tell you how much I admire you guys that do the numbers matching down to the last detail. But it just isn't me. I would rather build a street car I can play with all I want

[musclecarjohn]

A buddy of mine just picked up a straight-bumper '70 Z that was originally Dark Green (code 48) with standard Black interior (711).It is pretty solid but has some rust bubbling through near the drip rails on the roof and in the usual places along the rocker panels but not too bad considering it's a CA car.It has been in a garage since the late '80's and shows 41k on the odometer.Somewhere along the way,someone retrofitted Pontiac T/A rear disc's on it.

Anyways,he goes to www.nada.com and comes away with this inflated $35K figure for a "average" condition car so...he thinks his is worth that!

I said...NO ...your car need s a TOTAL resto and I figure it in the $12-$15K range plus another $20K for the restoration...I know because I've BEEN there!

I then ask him..."So then,what's my #'s-matching '70 Hugger Orange R/S Z worth that has been completely restored?" and he says $58K which is what NADA says an excellent example will bring.

Again...I said NO because that figure just isn't realistic.That is '69 Z money and I just don't see prime '70 Z's bringing that kind of money....yet at least.

I don't know where NADA gets these figures but I think they are kinda high...what do you guys think?

[musclecarjohn]

...I mean those are good numbers to show your insurance company after a fender-bender but I don't think those are "real-world" figures...

Comments?

[70Z]

John, my .02 would be value depends on a lot things. For example:

"Completely restored" can mean a lot of things. Certianly a car restored to an anal level of originality is normally worth more than a car restored to a lesser level of detail. Both may be beautiful cars but to get the big bucs "correctness" seems vital.

How you market the car plays a big part in what it sells for. Is the description accurate? Are the pics detailed?

Another thing. It's been my experience that a "known" car sells faster and for more money. People like knowing that the "community" is in agreement that the car is legit and correct. I personally fall into this category. I feel more comfortable and will pay more for a car that others who are far more knowledgable than I sign off on, so to speak.

Paper documentation..Sort of relates to the above except the paper stuff could always be faked. The 2 together though make a winning combo.

And finally, the buyer! Some people buy these cars because they want THAT car. Believe it or not, their not looking to make money. They just want what they want. If a buyer like that shows up, you as the seller are going to be real happy.

Thats my story and I'm sticking to it

[musclecarjohn]

Good solid advice Tom,thanks for your input.

[Hotrodpaul]

I just picked up a 70Z, Citrus Green with 49K miles, CW Turbo 400, no rust, no smog, one repaint, all original except for correct CE warranty replacement motor, almost perfect interior, non-rs, for $21,500. It is a geat starting point for a resto since most of the hard to find items are there.

I have even talked with the son of the first owner since 70 or 71 and he claimed the motor was overheating and the engine was dealer replaced sometine in the early 70's. That would match up with the blocks casting date of 1971 and one 492 service head dated 1972. The other head is a 186 casting, dated Jan 1970. It even has the original spare tire.

Apparently, the father bought the car in 70 or 71 for his son while he was in High School. It's a wonder he didn't wrap it around a telephone pole.

Getting ready to hunker down for Hurricane Rita. Best of luck to everybody.


Paul