ZL-1 # 40 on Ebay

[njsteve]

There are a bunch of people, myself included, that would prefer to have a low mileage car in its original condition, no matter how mediocre the paint may be. But the majority of collectors and or "investors" out there want perfect, hence you get low mileage cars that get full restorations. Mopar paint jobs were notoriously bad back in the 70's. Back in the day I never saw a Plum Crazy Mopar without flaking, peeling paint and factory primer showing through. It was a bad paint mix that just wouldn't stay on the cars. In the mid 80's I had an orange and white 71 Hemi Charger with a factory sunroof. The car had 33,000 miles and its original paint which was horrible. It had a factory lead repair in the quarter and paint runs you just wouldn't believe. Once the paint started flaking off the car I had no choice but to sand and repaint. But it was an interesting timepiece at the time and created many a snear at carshows when people would insult the factory paint as they would walk by.

[Les Quam]

Galen told me that handshake is a secret and not to be discussed. Leave it to your loose lips to discuss it on a public forum. LOL

[mr396]

I all so like the un-restored car's. Are there any un-restored Hemicuda Convertibles left?

[Les Quam]

I will stick my neck out yet again for you guys to chop it off. I would rather own one of the few original engine Zl-1 camaro's than any HEMI cuda Convertible. And before you guys tee off on me I own a couple of HEMIs and really appreciate them. But an aluminum ZL-1 stuffed into a little camaro is the ultimate expression of a muscle car today and forever IMHO.

OK you can commence the flaming now about how HEMI cuda convertibles are 2 or 3 million but an aluminum big block chevy in that pony car it's the ultimate. It's like Robert Duvall's quote in apocalypse now regarding naplam in the morning. "it just smells like victory"

[Jeff H]

I'm with you. I'd rather have an aluminum 427 Camaro over any hemi. I still don't understand why the Hemi Cuda conv goes for $3 mil plus. But everyone has their preference and that's what makes the musclecar market what it is!

[Born30YrsLate]

Yay! ZL-1 Camaro!!!

[hvychev]

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This is all so friggin goofy. A MILLION for a muscle car??? I still don't care. One day in 20 years when my Deuce is worth a half million because Yenko Camaros are bringing two million. I will still drive in bumper to bumper traffic in the ghetto like I did this afternoon and still beat the piss out of it at SCR27. This is what they were meant to do.


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Not to sound like a jerk or anything, but it's easy to say that when you didn't pay the half million for the car. If you paid what the car was worth, would you really be driving it that often? Especially if it was your life's savings you had invested in the car because you always wanted one!

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To late not to sound like a jerk Jeff. First of all, I don't know what you paid for your JL8 nor do I care but I paid a pretty penny for my Deuce and have thousands more in it in improvements over the past year and a half. Might actually be more money than you have in the JL8 that you have been restoring for the past 15 years. I will say it again. I don't give a $hit how much money I have in the car. It is getting driven like the MF was stolen. That is the bottom line. IT IS ONLY A CAR. It is insured and already a restored car so it can be restored again. If you have to worry and stay up at nights worrying about the car the "you have spent your life savings on" maybe you should change your priorities, sell it, and improve your quality of life.

[mr396]

I wish the bottom would drop out of the "muscle car market" I have $3000.00 (three thousand)in my camaro.I could have bought the blue 69 RS ZL-1 1n the eighties for $45,000 but I would have had to sell my camaro to finance the sale.I thought about it very hard, because I knew what the future value would be of the one of two 69 ZL-1's made,but decided I was happy with my car,I didn't care about the money,I cared about the car.and besides if I wanted a faster car I could all ways build it to be faster,But I couldn't make the ZL-1 a convertible. I haven't put a penny in my car in 20 years and because of that it's mostly all original.I could be happy with this one car for the rest of my life.I have been able to turn down the offers to buy my camaro, but now with the prices the way they are my wife is getting more insistent for me to sell it.I don't know how much longer I can hold out. so I wouldn't care if the bottom fell out.sorry I hd to vent.

[Jeff H]

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To late not to sound like a jerk Jeff. First of all, I don't know what you paid for your JL8 nor do I care but I paid a pretty penny for my Deuce and have thousands more in it in improvements over the past year and a half. Might actually be more money than you have in the JL8 that you have been restoring for the past 15 years. I will say it again. I don't give a $hit how much money I have in the car. It is getting driven like the MF was stolen. That is the bottom line. IT IS ONLY A CAR. It is insured and already a restored car so it can be restored again. If you have to worry and stay up at nights worrying about the car the "you have spent your life savings on" maybe you should change your priorities, sell it, and improve your quality of life.

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Well Frank, now you sound like a jerk. Apparently you have money grwoing on trees or access to an unlimited bank account. Like a lot of regular people, I don't have access to funds like you do. Why do you think I'm driving a 1988 4Runner every day, because I like it? I have sacrificed all my income the last 6-7 years to make my crossram JL8 car a reality. But when it's done, I'll be nervous about driving it in NJ because the chances are very high something bad will happen. I know insurance will cover any damage, but I'm not waiting another 5 years to have it fixed again. And you have no idea how much I have invested in my car and it's probably more than you do in your car so get off your soapbox. You can't join any discussion in a civil manner, can you. I apologize to others reading this but Frank is way out of bounds with his attitude!

[Les Quam]

Of course all the Yenko,COPO and Zl-1 owners better hope that Charley Lillard doesn't bring from his stable what is without a doubt the worlds fastest muscle car ever made and can be bought today at any affilated dealer for 200K all day long to the Supercar Yenko shindig and cut 11.50 ETs all day long capped up and on street tires with the A/C on and Frank Sinatra in the CD player while he does business on his cell phone! It has 604 HP and 738 FT pounds of torque from the factory right off the showroom floor and is under warranty......

I refer of course to the one and only ZL-1 soul crushing camaro killing Mercedes AMG SL 65 of course. For 200K you can walk into any Mercedes dealer and buy history's most powerful muscle car. It will even have the original engine. LOL