"New" '69 Motion Camaro's

[Supergas990]

I'm not sure what to think about this. On the one hand, these cars will be totally different than the cars he created in the day. On the other hand, it seems a little bit like high dollar Beenie Babies (you all remember when those were the rage). I know it's not the best analogy, but I think it's difficult to create a collectible.

You can create limited edition cars and they will be cool and sell for BIG $$$$$, but you can never recreate the magic of the era that led to these cars. You can't go back to the future.

Just because its old or rare doesn't make it collectible or an antique.

JMHO

Blair

[RichSchmidt]

PersonallyI feel,that all the arguements are moot.Some supercar builders reissued modified vintage cars and called them originals even though they were made"super"40 years after they were built new.Some super car builders aligned forces with current dealers to create late model examples of their old supercars.Joel rosen is the only one who can say that he has built supercars from both new cars and used ones.How about a 72 camaro that was given the pahse 3 treatment in 1976,They still fetch big bucks despite never seing the inside of Baldwin Chevrolet.Now it would be even more interesting if Joel used some of the new Dynacorn bodies and a bolt on front clip,to make and "All New" 69 Camaros.If nothing else,it would give us GM guys a chance to get even with the Musang guys who taunt us that there isnt a new Camaro to compete with the Mustang.

[55chevy]

Personally I wish Joel would go back into business as Motion Performance and start modifying cars like he did back in the day. ANY car a customer brought to him for the "treatment". I have a 74 Nova that would be right at the top of the list for something like that... And it would be a genuine MOTION car then, would it not? If something like that could be done at a reasonable cost I'd be right there. And not to make it some "instant collector item".. but make it the bad ass car that "I" want.. just like all the cars he built back in the day. And I tell you what. I'd drive the piss out of it on a daily basis.. Just like all the Motion cars of past had done to them.

that would be awesome.

[RichSchmidt]

ANd lets be honest about the pricingI believe I read somewhere that a phase 3 70 camaro cost over 10 grand at the time,and that was about the same as to cost of a new Ferrari at the time,and also about half the cost of a nice house in the suburbs of Jersey at the time.That would put th same car today at costing 200 grand.

[COPO]

Most of the BM cars were not quite that much, although a few did get into the five figures but were mainly corvettes. My '67 BM SS 427 Chevelle was $5,500. The '71 BM Phase III Camaro I had was around $7300. Your point is correct, however, that a loaded up Motion car was expensive at the time compared to a stock car. Performance costs money then and now.

[RichSchmidt]

Actually,I dont doubt you are right,particualrly about the earler cars.I know that in an article a few years back which featured the red with white stripes 70 phase 3 car which I belive was in the Robson collection at one time,it mentioned that the cost of the car new exceeded $10,000 back in 1970 which was more then a new Ferrari at the time.I have a copy of the invioce from a 72 Motion built Camaro that was converted in 1976,and that job cost $10,600.That car had 4.10 gears put in the stock 10 bolt,along with the suspention package,a shift kit and super holeshot convertor in the stock trans and an LS6 crate motor with a cam,intake and carb kit.The car did have a set of wild wheel flares and wide tires all around which I am sure contributed to the cost of the bodywork,but it was still a big chunk for a car that was already owned.

[COPO]

The red w/white striped car was actually a '71 Phase III Camaro that I owned a couple of years ago. It was in 7 or 8 magazines. Milt never owned it, and it is now in Idaho. The car was bought new by a dentist from PA and was about $7300. I might still have a copy of the invoice somewhere. Cool car and I wish that I had kept it, but sold it to buy my 69 BM Phase III Camaro. The bottom line though, you are correct, they were expensive then and will be now.