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Old 02-28-2005, 12:52 AM
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I always wonder why when a person is restoring a car of this caliber usually the pictures seem to start after dissasembly.I would think if it was my car with no docs but complete original drivetrain I would want to take pictures of the car prior to dissasembly. Those pictures I would think could be some documentation as of what the car started life as. I understand if the car was purchsed in pieces and no original drivetrain you might want to leave those pictures out. I am no way talking about the car in the thread I know nothing about it. It just seems there is a lot of original drivetrain cars that are restored and no original pictures.
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That's an interesting perspective.....
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John,
I totally agree. With this car since there was no documentation and an altered cowl tag I would have taken as many pictures for my own reference. And who is to say that there wasn't any taken, there might have been. I would have least showed the photos of the partial vin's under the cowl and fan box.
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Old 02-28-2005, 03:43 AM
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John I was thinking the same thing. Your L78 pace car is an unrestored car, and contains a wealth of information and documentation. This information should be can be extracted prior to its restoration. Without documentation, full ownership history and without documenting the cars originality during the disassembly process, you leave yourself open to a lot of questions and not many answers. The provenance of a car is critical.
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Old 02-28-2005, 04:01 AM
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I have plenty of pictures of the car before I restored. Problem is that the car was redone in 1985.

As far as legit bids go. I take huge offense when they question that. I would assume that they figure I have 25,000 friends viewing the auction to raise the hit count as well. To be honest with you I am disappointed in the bid count of 45 based on 25,000 + viewers of the auction. I guess the other thing that I don't understand is the car is not even at the reserve yet? I could see people be concerned if the car was over the reserve and getting pushed all over the place? I really felt that the car would be in 210,000 range by now.

As someone stated in the forum before. Most cars in this kind of price range will sell off of ebay. I expect that the purchaser would require an exstensive inspection before purchase. I have told numerous people who are serious buyers, and took the time to call and get their questions answered, that they can have the car inspected and talk to the previous owners before they purchase the car. Even if they win the auction I would allow them to back out of the deal after the inspection.

Ebay is a great way to advertise.

See attached Photo of what it was like when I got it.
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Old 02-28-2005, 04:10 AM
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i like that color alot better even though its probably not original
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Old 02-28-2005, 04:21 AM
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I struggled with that for a long time. The car was actually Lemans Blue longer than it was Fathom Green.

My wife kept pushing for the green I think it was because she knew I would be more inclined to sell it if it was green than blue!!!
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I didn't mean to imply there was organized shill bidders. Just meant that there are lots of people on Ebay that bid and have no ability or intention to buy hence they are not real bids. Happens all the time.
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It happened to me on ebay more times than I would care to think about. I will say I have met the worst and the nicest people by dealing on ebay.

But it is no different then a regular Car Auction. I have seen curtains bidding. I had a friend that knew the auctioneer and while we were standing watching a Packard go up for auction the auctioneer called him by name and thanked him for his bid, 3 times and $100,000 increase. He did not even have a bidding account!!!! This was with one of the top Auto Auction houses!!!!!
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I THINK THE GREEN LOOKS GREAT.
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