Petition GM for all GM car info ???

[Pantera]

That is what I like to see!! Ideas on how to accomplish what we want. I kinda feel that the petetion may have better results. For it to work we will have to enlist the help of every GM car forum and promoters of events around the country.

I foresee us growing as a group as more and more "CAR nuts" like us learn about this forum. That can't be bad in itself. Perhaps more Yenko,BM, Dana, and regular production Muscle Ect. are discovered because of our envolvement in this endeavor?

njsteve: I am not a attorny so I really do appreciate the legal slant that you provide. I was pretty sure that either the statute of limitations or some other legal barrier would protect GM. Lets face it the truth is the truth and you can't win in court if you can prove that you are telling the truth.

Now for all those Ass**les that are making phony cars that didn't come with those options from the factory, I predict that they will be moving out of the country or going into hiding. I bet these will bring some local lawsuits and I relish reading of them getting it put to them in a court of law. I doubt that any of us on here would feel sorry for them. I do feel for those that fell for the BS cars that are already setting in someones collection that turn out to be fakes though!

I think it would create a lot of goodwill for GM to undertake this and that has to equate to sales somewhere down the line.

Guys please keep the Ideas coming. I love to hear the different slants on this subject, that each of you have.



Dee & Pantera want to wish each and every one of you one out there today a very, Merry Christmas !!!

[njsteve]

I was just kidding about the class action thing. But it is such an urban legend that GM wont release info for fear of lawsuits, it just irritates me any time it gets mentioned. If it was true, PHS would be sued on an hourly basis because there are 10 times the amount of GTOs out there than were ever built by Pontiac. It makes the 50,000 fake 69 Z28s out there seem insignificant by comparison.

[Pantera]

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there are 10 times the amount of GTOs out there than were ever built by Pontiac. It makes the 50,000 fake 69 Z28s out there seem insignificant by comparison.

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That is the best laugh I have had today. I was thinking there was only 40,000 fake Z-28's but who's counting??? I know one thing though. I would love to be a fly on the wall when GM did ever post the truth for all to read. Man would there be a mass exidous out of town for a bunch of guys before they got shot by some of the people they scamed.

Pantera

[TDW]

Does anyone on the Board here know Jim Mattison? Seems like he would be the person to talk to. The way I understand it, he has already put lots of time in this. Possibly he could recomend a direction to go in. Get his thoughts on a petiton doing any good.

[Pantera]

He is one that I do want to chat with about this if anybody has a email address for him please email me with the info.

Pantera

[sYc]

Neither GM nor the PBS is libel for what happens, and have never been to court. You see, the PHS paperwork you receive is a legal document, thus stands on its own merits. This according to Jim Mattison.

[njsteve]

Jim is quite correct, as the document falls under the "Business Records" exception to the hearsay rule. If someone was to sue a prior seller for a bogus car, they would simply place the PHS sheet into evidence as it is an official record of GM. No one at GM gets called as a party to the lawsuit.

[Mark_C]

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It makes the 50,000 fake 69 Z28s out there seem insignificant by comparison.

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Like this one on Ebay now?


50,001 now. Thank god for TrimTags.com or wherever these are coming from.