RAIV and RAV more continuation....

[DaJudge]

Steve ,

The people I have spoken with worked at GM at the time and they were talking about the Pontiac plant, it was a huge facility and still is.

I am not going to be negative in any way shape or form. People that are considered experts regarding Pontiacs have stated that "No Pontiac left the factory with a RA V installed" Among those experts are John Sawruk and Jim Mattison.

In life if you do not have concrete evidence to support a statement and I mean paperwork not verbal story telling from the past you lose credibility in any endeavor you are pursuing. Facts and supportive documentation are imperative whether you are buying a high dollar car or making a sales presentation to the board of directors a company. I cannot go into a meeting and make a presentation and discuss ROI and life cycle costs etc., without facts and supportive documentation.

That is all I have said all along unless there is documentation in the form of original paperwork to support a RA V engine installed at the factory then you must then assume it was installed at the dealer or even the original owner dropped it in.

All of the cars discussed previously are very interesting and have great history, I have the utmost respect for their owners and in no way am I speaking in a negative fashion about them or their cars.

Everyone here knows how I feel about this topic and I consider it a moot point unless original documentaion surfaces. Respectfully, Mike

[tjs44]

wont this ever die?With so few,like 6,castiron exhaust manifold made and NEVER a set seen on a supposed factory RA V car.The factory would not have sent a car out with headers.IMHO,Tom

[Steve_Hoog]

OK guys, maybe I incorrectly titled this new thread. Maybe the administrator can change it to what it should be:

"Where is the Engineering Building"

[Steve_Hoog]

At this point I think the exhaust manifold issue should be given to Marty Schorr.

I would guess there were more made than is known, but that's just a guess.

[tjs44]

I talked to George Delorian,he told me as good as he could REMEMBER it was about 1/2 dz.Same with the gen 1 birds.Tom

[Steve_Hoog]

Here are the exhaust Tom refers to, for the F body. Tom, I think Lance or some one has a set of A (maybe more?). Pic possible because of Andy and Musclecar Review, because I sure don't have a set in real life.

[tjs44]

I have a set on my T/A,they are made for the 303 short deck block,the oil filter does not have a adapter,it screws onto the side of the block.Tom

[Steve_Hoog]

Tom

The aluminum block is 303? For some reason I thought it was 400, my memory is floating away!!!

What are these manifolds?



Full Size

[tjs44]

I pulled the alu RA V from the car and replaced it with a complete 303 short deck SCCA motor.The new HPP mag should have a article on it.The Hot Rod mag cover is a complete 400 motor.Notice the oil filter is setup like a long branch motor.The 303 block has the filter screwing into the block from the side.

[Steve_Hoog]

Yes now I remember you telling me about the swap, my bad.

So are the manifolds on the Hot Rod cover the A body? My copy is at home, so I can't see what it says about them right now.