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Old 05-16-2007, 07:01 AM
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The guy that invented this should get the Nobel Prize in Automotive Chemical Engineering.

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I talked to the guy who "invented" this stuff. It is embarrassingly simple. 98% water. Just a chemical added to get the PH to a 7 if I recall correctly. If it is as he explained it, I would rather pay for the chemical and mix it as needed instead of buying it in liquid form. One thing he stressed, ALWAYS clean the bucket you are using of any debris or rust as the chemical continues to work on it even when the part has been removed and in turn it breaks the chemical down more rapidly. Also, use ONLY enough liquid to derust the part you are doing so as to not contaminate the rest of the liquid. When the chemical breaks down and does not react with the rust anymore it is safe and legal to drain down the sewer as it is now simply dirty water. Neat stuff regardless.
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:45 AM
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FYI, It is Jack Seymour,(a member here and fellow Carlisle LEGENDS Judge) who is the person reproducing the 70+ Camaro muffler and tailpipe hangars. Jack works for G.M. and was able to secure original drawings and then had new tooling made up to mfg the very rare muffler hangars. Honestly I dont know the "differences" between Jack's new hangars and originals, but the ACA judges at Carlisle accept them as we would N.O.S. vintage pieces.
Gardner Exhaust and other misc vendors and shops, ALL buy these hangars from Jack Seymour.
Jack Seymour was one of the 1st 70 Camaro owners to restore his exhaust system with a N.O.S. muffler and NOT use the aftermarket IMCO muffler, that GARDNER provides with there complete 1970 Camaro system.

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Here is a photo comparison of my original hangers and the Gardner ones. I don't mean any disparagement concerning the quality of the repros. They look awesome but maybe there was a running assembly line change by 1972???

The muffler hanger definitely uses a different rubber bushing and method of containment for it. Smaller bushing with bent retaining tabs on the repro vs. extended shoulders on the original bushing. As for the rear pipe hanger, the triangular support bracing is shorter on the repro but interestingly enough it uses the same type of bushing as the reproduction muffler hanger (with tabs.)















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Some more body shop progress from ENOCH. I guess he is also working on a 69 Z/28 at the same time. Don't know which one though. Anyone care to fess up as to who is delaying my car's finishing date?










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Isn't the 69 Z SamLBinJ's?

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Look what I just found on ebay! A buddy from the Performance Years website gave me a heads up. A good buy at $15. Looks like vintage 1970's from my car's original dealership (which is still in business today!)


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The guy that invented this should get the Nobel Prize in Automotive Chemical Engineering.

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I talked to the guy who "invented" this stuff. It is embarrassingly simple. 98% water. Just a chemical added to get the PH to a 7 if I recall correctly. If it is as he explained it, I would rather pay for the chemical and mix it as needed instead of buying it in liquid form. One thing he stressed, ALWAYS clean the bucket you are using of any debris or rust as the chemical continues to work on it even when the part has been removed and in turn it breaks the chemical down more rapidly. Also, use ONLY enough liquid to derust the part you are doing so as to not contaminate the rest of the liquid. When the chemical breaks down and does not react with the rust anymore it is safe and legal to drain down the sewer as it is now simply dirty water. Neat stuff regardless.
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Well, in that vein, I guess a diamond is just 100% carbon with a little pressure added over time.

I have been pouring all but the last bit of the liquid with the bottom debris, back into the container. Eventually I will buy some more but it is still working well after all these months.
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