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Old 12-09-2005, 02:46 AM
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Sure it's all Pontiac, and so is CP .
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Old 12-11-2005, 06:37 AM
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From the auction today:

71 Judge Vert $195,000 +10% auction buyers fee.

1970 GTO Judge Convertible brought $130,000 plus buyers fee

1965 GTO Convertible brings $75,000 plus buyers fee.
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Old 12-11-2005, 06:45 AM
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actually, it was 197,500 for the 1971 - I was there and I bid 195k. I don't think the other guy had any "quit" in him, so I walked away. It was a nice car, and I know how rare they are, but to me the sex appeal was low being green, automatic, and a trim tag change. I looked at the car all morning and couldn't get worked up over it. The result on the 65 and 70 are really over the moon, IMHO, for cars with as many stories as they had. The Superbirds were ridiculous, both had NO paperwork and NEW fender tags. One was a restamp.

I have decided I may fake my death at some point so I can get 1,000 people to fly into Milwaukee in a raging blizzard and pay huge money for all of my junk!!

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Old 12-11-2005, 07:04 AM
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Colin.... haha

Do you know who bought the 71?
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No, but it appeared that it was the same buyer for all three Pontiacs.
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Old 12-11-2005, 08:29 AM
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Colin,
I was told by a dealer down south that you like to buy Mopars with reproduction fender tags? Has something suddenly changed your opinion on the Mopar reproduction fender tag market? LOL LOL Sometimes I crack myself up!
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That was an inside JOKE for those of you who may think Colin actually buys reproduction fender tags on his cars.

J-O-K-E.
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$195,000 for a 71 Judge ragtop.I know thats alot of money but was'nt these cars going for alot more a year ago?
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71 Judge sales price with buyer's premium: $217,250.00

Only one other has been reported as selling, for 300k, and it was 300k in trade to my understanding. No track record of actual cash sales... so, how can a market really be established when there are (almost) no sales?? Yes, I was offered and have seen project cars in the past, but only one "done" car - the 3x White one, has changed garages. Disclaimer: To MY knowledge! LOL

PLUS, again, the car in NH was GREEN, AUTO, older resto...didn't "grab" you. When you start spending 200k+ on cars, most guys want a car that "jumps" out at you. Like a Rallye Green or Hugger Orange car.

When I was a young punk just starting in the car business, we learned about color fast! We referred to green and brown cars as "never gonna leave green" and "stick around brown".
Being here in Milwaukee, a good portion of them were AMC's or (worse yet) Renault Alliance/Encores (AKA "Appliances"). Not a good combo. LOL

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Old 12-12-2005, 02:01 AM
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Colin is right, there is nothing to base a market on. With only 2 of the known 3 four speeds in existance not readily for sale, and then you get into the blane colored autos. Add those two things with a lack of sales and certainly not publicly disclosed, that is why this particular car was of interest. A public auction.

Six figures are thrown around for a couple of the nicer ones, and then you have a couple of rust buckets. There are still about 4 totally unaccounted for, another 2 or 3 not entirely in the know.
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