Judges

[Steve_Hoog]

It's over on the other thread..... IV/V continuation.

I made a boo boo posting that in this thread.

[gtaa9]

No problem I'll check it out thanks.

[gtaa9]

I hope all of you got what you wanted for X-MAS.I'm going to be gone until new years you all have a good new years and drive safe.

[gtaa9]

Was there any RAV's put into Judges?If so how many?I know that the RAV was a dealer thing it was'nt factory but does anybody know how many were put into Judges?

[tjs44]

NO PHS doc. RA V cars.Dealer or self installed engines.

[gtaa9]

So a 69 GTO or Judge with a dealer install RAV would be like a 69 YENKO,its not a factory car but its worth alot of money.

[DaJudge]

I would have to say no since the Yenko had the 427 in it from the factory depending on the year. Unless you have original dealer documentation to authenticate it this would be an incorrect conversion to a GTO or Judge. I believe the GTOAA rule book states that in the case of conversions such as these unless there is documentation to support it must then be entered in the modified class or points deductions will occur. I guess to make along story short unless I had dealer docs I would not put a RA V between the fenders of any Judge I owned. I would love to own one of those engines but I have always been a purist when it comes to my cars and want them exactly as they left the factory. JMO

Happy New Year

[gtaa9]

From what I understand correct me if I'm wrong:the 427 cars that came from berger,motion,yenko,nickey ect. were a dealer install.If you wanted a 427 camaro,nova or chevelle you had to go to one of these dealerships to make that happen,it was'nt factory.The COPO cars are factory 427's.So with the RAV I would put it with the berger,yenko,motion,nickey cars as a dealer install car.

[gtaa9]

DaJudge,when I stumbled onto this website I was impressed with all the information available to me.I have check out all the old threads and have found out that there are alot of people wanting to know how many Judges were a certain color.I noticed that you are one of those people well I have a friend that lives in Arizona and his dad worked for GM from 1964-1979,he was on the line in the pontiac plant.His dad had permission to keep track of the Judges coming through the line,he wrote the year and exter. color only(dont ask me why he did'nt keep more info per car).Ever since I stumbled onto this site I wanted to give out this information.I called my friend last week and told him about the site:His dad recently past away so the only person that has any clue about the color breakdown for Judges is his son.He has given me color breakdowns for the HT's and verts for the 69-70-71 Judges.I have permission from him to give out this information.The deal between my friend and I was that if he gives me this information I will not give out his familys name or any other information and I told him that I would honor that.He also said that his dad told him that the numbers aren't 100% correct and that there around 80-82% correct.I will post the numbers on this thread tonight.