Judges

[gtaa9]

I check out the performance years site and found an older post about Judge colors.If I have the right guy it seems that he has done alot of research on Judges.The only thing I noticed about the guy is his grammer when he writes.Another thing I noticed was he would let people know that the numbers that he has aren't 100% correct.As long as he is saying that the numbers aren't 100% correct,then I see nothing wrong with it.It seems that most of the people that have responded are either jealous of upset that they dont have what he has.I've been told that Pontiac never kept track of this but give the guy a break.

[442w30]

All I can say is that I've probably participated in those discussions and nowhere can I say I've felt any jealousy (about what?). Sure, his "grammer" may be poor, but someone has to be a stickler for the details. The level of knowledge on this site with the COPO/etc. crowd is much more concrete than what this guy has. It's cool that he's kept track of some of these cars, but he needs to be more professional with his statistics. At least that guy in CO with the Chevelle breakdown did his thing in a scientific way and makes no bones about it being more than educated speculation.

There's enough misinformation out there. We don't need people to be spreading more old wive's tales and such.

[gtaa9]

If I upset you I'm sorry my intenion wasn't to do that.I agree that the guy needs to be more professional with his statistics.You mention that the information on COPO,Yenko cars ect are more concrete, well the informationproduction #'s ect.)is already out there for these cars.Judge colors on the other hand are not, so with poor grammer not being professional or on the way he did his research I respect the guy. I'm sure that he put in alot of hours into it.

[442w30]

Naah, I'm not upset.

But the info on COPOs and stuff is not so concrete either. How many Yenkos were built in 1969? Were Novas COPOs or engine transplants? There's a world of mystery in all cars.

[gtaa9]

My understanding is that:Yenko,Dick Harrell,Baldwin Motion,Nickey were all dealerships that transplanted the 427's and COPO cars are factory cars.Pontiac had the bobcat kit also this wasn't a factory option,it was a dealer install.I'm pretty sure that every manufactorier had something simular to yenko camaros and bobcated GTO's.

[442w30]

You're right that COPOs are factory cars. But tell me where the concrete COPO info is? There is none. The best there is is Tonawanda production figures.

[gtaa9]

I suppose nothing any more is 100% when your dealing with old car production numbers.I do have some yenko #'s I dont know how accurate they are but here go's:

1967 yenko camaro-54
1968 yenko camaro-64
1969 yenko camaro-201
1968 yenko nova 396 375hp-7
1968 yenko nova 427-30
1969 SYC nova 427-30
1970 yenko deuce-174
1971 yenko nova-52
1972 yenko nova-8
1965 yenko stinger corvair-200
1969 yenko chevelle 427-99

Like I said I dont know how accurate these numbers are,feel free to correct me if they are wrong.

[Steve_Hoog]

With over 10,000+ coupes between 69 and 70 production, it would seem a very challenging task for an individual to undertake a successful registry.

Although we may not have a GM supplied list of VIN's for Judges (that I'm aware of), thank God we have PHS.

I have been collecting PHS sheets for Judges as they turn up on the web, but I have less than 50.

[gtaa9]

Your right 10,000+ Judges to account for is a pretty big task.With these forums and other forums in other websites maybe some day we'll have the info on this subject.What you and probably many other people are doing is a good start.

[Charley Lillard]

gtaa9..please fill out your profile...