High 69 Z-28 cross ram prices coming to an end??

[njcrossramjeffm]

I don't see the phase thing at all I still think they have plenty of up side left in the value of a original piece with old dated on carbs. repro is crap and will always be looked down on. the current flood of 4295 holley's on ebay are the recently re-released version a large carb vendor form down south commissioned holley to do. you'll be seeing many of the good list# holley's popping up soon nos with old dates (buyer beware).I will make a bold prediction an say that a crossram car will be the highest of all record setting priced camaro's in the future. The AL M 68z convertible or one of the penske trans am cars (probably the 69 championship car) expect to see the million dollar mark if the market stays on the same track it's been on the last couple of years. I see that inturn influencing the value of the rest of the z28's with real gm crossrams especially ones with gm jl8's.
As far as tuning my car my crossram car has same jetting specs as Kerry's car much leaner than oem,my power valves are higher # than his due to different cam, and looser valve setting's had a noticeable effect on starting ease. I kinda like the fact that the guys that don't know how to tune a holley don't like the setup. sorta weeds out the poser's.
As far as drivability you could take my car or Kerry's coast to coast without a second thought. make sure you bring your shell gold card though.
The sound is different when your foots in the gas too, make more of who's your daddy kind'a roar, sounds like it's trying to suck you hood down through the carbs worth all the money just to listen to it through chambered exhaust don't think i turned the radio on since i put the setup on and who ever says they slow a timid motor down hasn't been in one. midrange and top end are a dramatic improvement. go to a vintage trans am you will see the 2x4 cars noticeably outpull the single 4 barrel cars. I'll never forget the first time I saw the old penske crossram camaros 67 68 and 69 car vintage race at Watkins glenn impressive power. but the best was at the Monterey classic a couple of years back live on the speed channel when I think it was pat ryan in his crossram car running in second on the last lap last corner when he snuck alongside the the mustang leading the race.then in a flat out drag race to the checker stomped the mustang by a car length. in a post race interview pats comment was (with a ear to ear grin) "a finish like that just goes to show you two for barrels are better than one"
CROSSRAM $20,000... EMBARRASSING A FORD LIVE ON NATIONAL TV.... PRICELESS!

[Charley Lillard]

The AL M 68z convertible does not have a crossram on it, just a aircleaner. I'll sell my Crossram for 20K but I think that window has closed.

[juliosz]

Charlie,
When I saw the 68 Z convertible at the Kruse auction in Auburn (labor day weekend) it had a cross ram setup on it.

[Charley Lillard]

No..all that was there was a crossram air cleaner. If you look closely you will see 3 carb studs. The center one is attaching it to the single 4bbl carb.

[CopoCrunkus]

You can see from this pic, 1 carb From Muscle Car Review Feb, 03

[TDW]

Charley...I was at Als place a little while back.Just before he took the car to the auction. It has a crossram on it now. I took a picture of it.

[Salvatore]

You may be right my man. We will just have to see. They do look great with the hood open!

[Jeff H]

I'm wondering if the $20K crossram price was a spike in the market or not. But the flood of new Holley 4295's might help run the price back up on original carbs. The repro crossrams will find a market in people who could never afford the $20K for the GM piece, but that will probably keep the GM prices up as well. Who knows, I thought $5K for a complete GM setup was ridiculous money.

[firstgenaddict]

The drag race to the Chekered Flag was classic. I could not believe it he drove deep into the corner hammered the brakes and then drag raced the Mustang to the finish.
As far as the pricing goes I'll wait to see the quality of the repo's and also if they put dates on them. That will be the real determination. If they put old casting dates and the intakes look like NOS (or good enough to fool 90% of the buyers) then that will determine if the $20,000 pricing will hold or not.