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Old 07-28-2004, 11:19 AM
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Rich,
I am glad you can understand the importance of this topic, many people really are not aware what an agent can go through trying to do an effective professional job so that both buyer and seller are pleased, as well as all the BS cars out there not ending up a dissapointment for someone. While many here are old pros at this hobby, many are also relative newcomers who should have the protection of 35 years of muscle car knowledge to aid in a purchase or sale which in this day and age the financial aspect has surpassed what many real estate agents handle. If I put together a deal I also accept and warranty the authenticity of the car and it's componants taking full liability for any mistakes to be discovered later on the car. As anyone here would know, that is a very time consuming research situation which becomes what I call an enterance into "The Red Zone" after finding out the so called buyer was nothing but BS with no intention of buying anything more then a die cast collection rather then the real thing. I was asked to put together a list of fifteen cars to start, with more to follow. I had the list together in three weeks including owner history on most. The following is a list of what I had assembled:

1 - 68 Z-28 Soft Top
2 - 70 Hemi Cuda Soft Top
3 - 69 Baldwin Camaro
4 - 69 Yenko Nova
5 - 69 Trans Am Soft Top and HT pair
6 - 70 Hemi Cuda 44 miles
7 - 70 Chevelle LS6 Soft top
8 - 68 Hemi Dart
9 - 67 Z-28
10 - 70 Hemi Challenger Talladega Pace Car
11 - 70 Plum Cuda 440 Six Pack
12 - Baldwin Motion Corvette
13 - 70 Hemi Coronet RT soft top
14 - #1 Harrell ZL1
15 - 1968 Hurst Olds
These are all top flight cars, many of which were not even being considered for sale. No doubt these would have been an impressive collection to go from ground zero. Some may still be available, some not. A situation as this just makes it bad for the honest serious buyer or seller, it is beyond me why someone would just waste their time and mine playing wanna be car collector.
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Old 07-28-2004, 04:37 PM
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The biggest waste is that the owners of those cars may be offended by what happened and decide not to sell them now regardless of price. Stupid stunts like that will just damage the collector car market. I just don't get it.
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Old 07-28-2004, 05:49 PM
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Jeff,
You hit the nail on the head exactly. The sellers involved in cars of this caliber are certainly not having financial hardships, so time is spent by the broker presueding the owner to sell, then comes a month of the buyer will be in town on this day or that, the seller is trying to plan his daily life around the supposed arrival, then the end result becomes a month of lies and excuses so that the sellers who didnt need to sell in the first place have been left with such a bad feeling over the whole thing that it becomes unlikely that another opportunity to buy a certain car will be a long time off, if ever, and higher priced as there is no wish to have to go through a month of aggrevation again. The broker ends up with a $1000 phone bill as the wanna be buyer is across the border in another country, as well as the distance locations of the cars for sale, and worse yet through no fault of the broker he ends up looking like the bad guy because he had faith in someone with a convincing story. Therefore, as Rich P. said, along comes a true client and the broker is no longer as courteous as before because another blow to faith in honor has taken it's toll. I have not mentioned this persons name publicaly as that would bring me to his cheesy level, along with legal issues, but anyone who has an interest and wants to be sure they are not being led down the proverbial garden path can contact me by phone or Email for further details. The whole situation has a domino effect that in one way or another hurts all the honorable collectors and enthusiests in this hobby. What goes around comes around.
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Old 07-28-2004, 06:31 PM
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Is that list exclusively yours or is it like out of Hemmings or something...Do the owners know you are brokering them ?
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Old 07-28-2004, 06:52 PM
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wow, that was cold
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Old 07-28-2004, 07:17 PM
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It's a valid question Gem...I just wonder if these types of things are exclusive to a broker...Rich also has a list....do brokers beat the bushes to "list" things ?
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There are a few cars on that list that I would think couldn't be touched. Pretty amazing to me if they actually sold.
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