1970 Ls6 Convertible

[yountto]

Rick, I have no opinion either way whether the car is real or not[i just have to respectfully disagree that in this day and age anything can be "verified" without GM paperwork] ,just strange that its been for sale 3 times after the "experts" verified it and wasnt sold before,now everyone wants it,and it hits reserve the first day by bidders from this site ?? Im thinking if i wanted the car that badly id have been there the first day with a hauler,or the six months in between auctions . Honestly i think the reason is people are testing the waters to see if it will gain acceptance without paperwork on this site PRIOR to buying it,rather than buying it offline and showing up with a non documented Ls6 and no momentum [understandable ] ...Just my opinion...

[Charley Lillard]

Yountto.. I had forgotten all about the car and in my opinion prices have jumped since it was last for sale. 71 Judge converts are now 200-300K so a orig engine LS6 convert for 75K seems like a deal in comparison.

[yountto]

So do i get a finders fee for first posting it here and reminding you???!...I do agree with you on prices and wasnt specifically talking of you because you are the high bidder[again,after the bid retraction] ,the only point i disagree on is that i cannot personally call an Ls6 an origial engine car[with OR without paperwork],just because a chevelle judge says so....even the NCRS judges will certify a car 100 points yet have a disclaimer that says even though the car is judged top flight, the ncrs makes no guarantee as to authenticity,because quite frankly how can they look at a car 30 years after the fact and be certain???...I have not tried to discredit the car in any way because i havent seen it....Its just that now that site members bid on it,everyone is quick to call an undocumented car the real deal by the bidder list...

[Belair62]

[ QUOTE ]
I have not tried to discredit the car in any way because i havent seen it.

[/ QUOTE ] Interesting point Yountto...if you saw it and agreed the numbers added up and looked undisturbed,what would your opinion on it be since it still wouldn't have paperwork ?....

[yountto]

Personally i believe if a car has a factory GM buildsheet or GM canada paperwork,or in the case of the ZL1s the vins are known,i would verify the car is surely legit....other than that POPs,owner history,and peoples opinions just dont count when you are in 200k 300k land[or less for that matter].....What you are saying is if you take a real L78 camaro,buy a virgin dated block and a set of 842s and do nothing else but add these two items, you have a real L89 because it looks to be one????

[Belair62]

I tend to agree but buildsheets are suspect too...but my question was what you would say about this car if you were able to personally look at it and found that it looked legit ??? Would you deem it to be as valuable as a car with doc's being it is such a low production car ?

[yountto]

There is absolutely NO way any car without docs is as legitimate as one with, you have to be kidding....Ive only questioned that the parameters of what is needed for a car to be "documented" have been altered and watered down to fit a given situation and or individual[s] ...One can make an educated assumption[note "assumption"] that a car is real based on a combination of originality,owners,and condition,but nothing with certainty without paperwork. The problem is buying a car with no docs is like buying a Babe Ruth baseball documented by a handwriting expert,you really hope its his signature but it bothers you that maybe the Babe didnt sign it...I give alot of credit to the seller for not having a 200.00 POP in this particular case ,its going to a new home so good luck to the buyer also

[LVCamaro]

Plus, like it or not, the opinion of this board DOES bear on the desirability of the car. I'm sure the folks from this board that have expressed interest in the car are aware of who inspected the car [a year, or so ago]. His opinion/comment weighs heavily in a decision to purchase a '70 Chevelle LS6 convertible without paperwork. Nothing trumps original documentation, but I believe CW's opinion is the next best thing. So, I guess I'm agreeing with you that acceptance here is valuable.

SS