1967 Baldwin Motion Camaro.

[JoeC]

not sure if it is the same car but there has been a black 67 Camaro dressed like a Motion car bounceing around the country for sale at diffent locations. The car I am thinking of has a lot of issues.

[MotownMadman]

Joe,
If this car is a fraud which it sounds like, I would think that Joel would take issue with the forged letter that is displayed with the car with Joel's signature. The letter looked genuine enough, I have several printed Motion items with Joel's signature, from a visual perspective the signature appeared real. If the letter was for another car as Charlie said, I would think more then one law is being violated for adding in the VIN from this car, and since the car is being advertised and or sold in different areas of the US across state lines it becomes a Federal issue. Anyone here capable of asking Joel about this situation so this can possibly be brought to a halt before someone shells out the $$$$$ on a fake? If this car is already known as a fake on the circuit how did it end up at Barrett Jackson to begin with? Does BJ have any type of screening process on these cars? After reading about the LS-6 Chevelle Charlie had posted on and now this car, why is it that BJ is not flooded with litigation? I didnt see this Camaro go across the block but after seeing these bright light bulb announcers in action I would bet they described this as an actual Motion car, if they even knew what a Motion car was. I would think that if Southebys or Christies were selling fake Picasso's they would not be in business long. With the value of these cars approaching fine art at some point the pedigree of the car and the accuracy of the description will have to be correct and concise or it is just a matter of time before the big classic car auction firms go under due to unethical and illeagal transactions. Any thoughts or opinions on this?
Thanks,
Motown

[MrMotion]

Hello Motown. Here is a picture of a 67 Blk Camaro that I have. Only the picture.

[MrMotion]

Another picture. Nice to warm up to on these cold mornings.

[MrMotion]

Lets look at this also.

[MotownMadman]

Mr Motion, Do you own this car? It looks like the car the someone posted earlier in this thread. Sharp car, is it a true Motion car? I see no emblems as pxtx said, also no sidepipes, did the 67 Motion cars have them? I wish I would have thought to take some pics of the car at Barrett Jackson to post here. Which was the correct configuration for a 67 Motion Camaro, the dog dish or Torque Thrust? This looks like a nicer car then the auction car, how long ago were these taken?
Motown

[matt murphy]

I heard the announcers from BJ on Speedvision say that they are describing the cars as the owners list them. They have no responsibility to the facts of the cars, just what the owners advertise them as. Some of them are fake but only disclosed if the announcers could figure it out. I agree, BJ needs to do their best to protect the buyers who put a lot of faith and trust in the auction house.

[MrMotion]

Motown, no I donot own this car. Some of these Camaros could be had with the 67 corvette sidepipes from Motion, but then no two cars could have been exactly alike.
Tony

[427TJ]

Here's an old magazine photo taken on front of Baldwin Chev back in the day. One car has a Stinger hood with "4-2-7" emblems and the second car has a SS hood. No sidepipes.