69 Z28 Sold for $112,000

[Jeff H]

Remember, the crossram setup was an over the counter option so it would never be considered original equipment. Did the yellow JL8 crossram car have any documentation with it? And I mean real documentation, not fake stuff like the p-o-p that was with the 68 L89 car.

[gemleeus]

i understand the crossram was not factory installed, dealer option only. i thought i recall them saying that it was dealer installed? i guess they had proof of that? i think the car had "Q" code axle? and even if it didn't technology today could make it a Q coded axle if they wanted to go to that extreme. also, isn't an aftermarket crossram produced for the z? i don't really know, thats why i joined to find out from experts. hey, by the way your jl8 for sale?

[Jeff H]

The JL8 rear axle codes begin with "Q" so that does have some meaning. My car has the 3.73 rear which is the "QX" code. The GM crossram was an over the counter option so saying "dealer installed" doesn't really mean much since it wouldn't be original to the car. There are several aftermarket crossram's(Offenhauser, Edelbrock) with the Offy being very similar to the GM but with obvious differences. My car will probably be for sale some day, but right now it's still in the middle of the restoration. I've got the original protect-o-plate and broadcast sheet with it as well as matching #'s. One other thing, GM made some fiberglass crossram cowl induction hoods(less than 100) and I thought that yellow car had one of the GM hoods like I have. That will increase the value as well.

[firstgenaddict]

It used to be if a car was fake it was fairly easy to spot. But the problem now is there are so many crooks who know what they are doing ...and so many speculators willing to BLOW money on undocumented cars or cars with Quasi-documentation for fear of missing the "Big One" that real cars with real documentation go unnoticed because most owners do not have the money or the notion to take the cars BJ. By the way BJ researches in order to determine that the cars are what the owner says yet with their lack of overall knowledge about these cars and obvious lack of research as to the documentation they have done nothing good for the hobby. The people on this forum have done more than anyone to advance the knowledge of these cars and make the determinations as to their authenticity. Sorry had to vent on this....

[427TJ]

Keep in mind that the number one factor behind something like the B-J auction is MAKING MONEY and we ALL love to make money, right? I sure do. Yes, the B-J folks look at a car and try to spot possible gaps in its credibility but if it's not obvious or easily proven that a car is a fake (or "incorrect" etc.) then it rolls across the stage. Mr. Jackson, in his defense, would probably tell you that he is more interested in someone getting "the car of their dreams" (and thus, a sales comission) than tossing out all the 'questionable' cars. Auctions are about EMOTION and MONEY--mainly MONEY.

Heck, if I won the Powerball I'd be down there next year with the Big Dogs and I'd probably drop more than $170,000 for that orange Hemi Superbird! I'd be like that guy who bought all four of the Callaway Corvettes for over $600,000! That'd be really fun to do, especially if money was no object. I'd be buyin' cars and high-rollin' and all those good looking women with the plastic surgery would be checkin' me out and...and...

Okay, back to reality.

[redline]

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Heck, if I won the Powerball I'd be down there next year with the Big Dogs and I'd probably drop more than $170,000 for that orange Hemi Superbird! I'd be like that guy who bought all four of the Callaway Corvettes for over $600,000! That'd be really fun to do, especially if money was no object. I'd be buyin' cars and high-rollin' and all those good looking women with the plastic surgery would be checkin' me out and...and...


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As much as it would be fun to get in on the action, I think that has to be one of the last places I'd actually buy a car, I don't care if I'm on TV for 15 seconds. I'd sooner search out the nice cars and by them right from the seller.

Jackson himself is nothing but a low life, trying to pump up the prices and his commission, makes me sick watching that guy smile and laugh the whole time. The announcers are so interested in the top selling cars $$$$$, big deal, I'd be more interested in the 'Best Deals'...but there probably isn't any there anyway.

$400,000 for a street rod?? what kind of resale is there in that 10 years down the road? Idiots.

[Eddie M.]

to me the deals to be had are from the local papers and maybe the swaps meets or just out driving around and looking

[T Billigen]

Hey redline, love your hood! I had two NOS inserts a few years ago, man are they hard to find!!