Royal info wanted

[GOAT72]

Bobcat assaulted the English language with:
"In answeer to your questions. It was pretty hard for Dick to hire anyone. He was not the GM. McQueen was. Nor was
Dick the new car manager. Dick Was the High performance salesman. Chuck Broomfield was the only mechinic initially doing the Bobcat conversions. Than later came Dave and Sid Warren. I know you have no idea how small Royal was in comparison to todays dealerships."

Bobcat,
I'm sure you were there, but you HAD to have been just a kid. (??)
Next, Dick Jesse was the performance salesman, yes, but he was INUNDATED with performance sales (over 5,000 Royal Bobcat club members when it was all said n' done)so he had to hire another mechanic to handle the load.

I quote:
""To beat one of their cars (Royal) was a high-profile victory indeed. After seeing Schornack in action, Dick Jesse, the performance salesman at Royal Pontiac, invited Milt to come and discuss job opportunities"
Page 80-81 GTO: The Great One, Steve Stratham.

Finally, in my 2+ hours of conversation with Milt, he never once had a negative word to say about Jim Wangers or anybody else. The guy is about 72 rr 73 years old now and he just likes to tell stories about his days at Royal. For you to trash the guy is absurd and inherently cruel. I'm certain you have angered folks in your past -- I certainly have. But why do you display such hatred for this guy?
It's not right to trash him on these boards and I am glad I stumbled in to defend him.

I will not help you create a Wangers v. Schornack agenda. As I said, BOTH men made tremendous contributions to the GTO legend.
I have nothing but respect for both of them.

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]~GOAT72

[Steve_Hoog]

GOAT72

You need to identify yourself.

[GOAT72]

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GOAT72

You need to identify yourself.

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No offense, but no... I don't, Steve.
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Let me just say that I am a writer and have done considerable research on Royal, PMD (from 1962 through 1973) and the Woodward Ave subsculture that evolved from what I like to call the "factory muscle car wars."
My screenplay is currently at The William Morris Agency. (heard o' them??)

I know that everything that "Mr. Bobcat" is saying is biased toward one individual's beliefs, but out of complete respect for that individual, I refuse to lower myself to Bobcat's level.

The classic car hobby is supposed to be "fun". I have only met wonderful people who would do anything to help his/her fellow hobbyist. There is no room in this hobby, or on this forum, for someone who choses to smear others and/or air their personal and financial shortcomings in public. It's not fair.
I am glad I joined the Yenko.net boards in time to defend a nice older gentleman like Milt, who takes great joy in helping others with free advice and tons of great memories from the good ol' days!

Thanks for reading my posts!
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~GOAT72

[Keith Tedford]

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[Bobcat]

Keith. truer words were never spoken. Have a Good New Year. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img]

[MrsBillyBobcat]

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GOAT72

You need to identify yourself.

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Guys,

I mean no disrespect here, but I feel GOAT72 is being unfairly singled out. There are numerous users on here who do not have their profile filled out at all, and who knows how many are filled in with “bogus” information. He has everything filled in but his name. The user “pont406” (who has NOTHING in his profile) spoke up 3 times in the “70 Judge RA IV and V Cont.” thread and no one asked him to "identify himself". I noticed someone tonight who has been on here since 2000, has 785 posts and NO NAME in his profile!

I, for one, do not have a problem if someone does not want to use their “real” name. What bothers me, however, is someone registering MULTIPLE user names with false information. They then can make it appear that there are multiple people who feel the same way about something, or worse, can use their “other” name when they want to post something mean or nasty . I am aware of an individual who has done this (and you know who you are!)

Rita

[sYc]

Rita, point well taken. We are not picking on anyone, just trying to tighten down on a few rules. And, most times, when we ask someone to complete their profile, it is done by private message. If you know of someone who is abusing their priviledge to post, PLEASE let us know. We do the best we can, but can always use some help.

[hvychev]

hmmm. Tom BTW where is your name in your profile???

[sYc]

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hmmm. Tom BTW where is your name in your profile???

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Frank, until a couple of days ago, when we changed servers, my name was at the bottom of each and every post I made.

[GOAT72]

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Guys,

I mean no disrespect here, but I feel GOAT72 is being unfairly singled out. There are numerous users on here who do not have their profile filled out at all, and who knows how many are filled in with “bogus” information. He has everything filled in but his name. <snip>
What bothers me, however, is someone registering MULTIPLE user names with false information. They then can make it appear that there are multiple people who feel the same way about something, or worse, can use their “other” name when they want to post something mean or nasty . I am aware of an individual who has done this (and you know who you are!)

Rita

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Thanks, Reet!

I could have just plugged-in a bogus name and misled Eric and his hidden supporters, Eric, Eric and Eric.

ONLY KIDDING!!!

Rather than simply being evasive and plugging an alias into my profile, I have simply chosen to remain anonymous for the time being.
My book deal should be signed in a week or two and then I will happily come out from behind the curtain.

Some people who have been polite (like Rita) already know who I am.
Just because I raise alotta valid points against Eric's incessant hatred for a single individual doesn't mean I'm
a hit & run member. It only means I have a few of my own "Royal Experts" at my finger tips.

By the way, I asked Milt how old he was last year and he said, "71" so I guess I'd better call him today and ask him again.
If Steved's source is correct I will give him his due, of course!


~G72