Possible Yenko SOLD on e-bay/Second Thread

[Clint_69]

Holy crap! Walk away for a few hours and look what happens. Here is the deal. The problem here is with the seller. I have and email sent to me from the sellers ebay account stating "the high bidder has backed out of the deal because of a lack of funds, call me immediately if you are interested". Fact! I then sealed the deal. Brian Potter has a very similar email that was sent to him after the auction was OVER (maybe Brian will attest to that). I have not once attempted to buy this car out from underneath anyone PERIOD! I never talked to quickrod (duane) until this afternoon so he could give me his stance onn this situation. I no longer blame Brian and Brian or anybody else for that matter based on the communication from the seller. As a matter of fact, the seller told me last night that he had the car sold to some other guy in NY for the amount of $25,000. I did not find out until this morning that quickrod was in the deal again. This car belongs to quickrod and I have no problem with that. It should have been his in the first place if the seller was honest. Why would the seller send out emails to me and other members of this site if the seller already had a check for $5500 from quickrod? BECAUSE HE WANTED MONEY! Sounds like the seller was motivated by money and was selling to the highest bidder even though he had legally binding contracts with myself and quickrod. So the answer is no, I did not try to buy this car out from underneath anyone. Since I am sure that quickrod has already got another deal to sell the car, I will open this up to a public auction. I am so frustrated with this deal!. Quickrod, I have $40,000 waiting here for you if you want to make a quick $35,000. Serious offer! Does anyone else want to step up? Let's go folks, there were at least 15 people trying to by it over the last two days. Again, I do not blame anyone but the seller unless there is a third party involved working through quickrod. Farone: Who the hell are you? Were you invloved in this deal? I didn't think so. Don't judge me if you do not know the details you freakin idiot! I have different words selected just for you ferone but I do not want my post deleted. Oh, I forgot to mention, the seller has all of my money, yesh, all $11,500. I only hope I can get it back.

[Jeff H]

Yeah, it definitely sounds like the seller sure messed things up. It's good to hear that quickrod1 is the winner and the legal buyer. It will be interesting to see if he decides to sell the car or not.

[farone]

JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, I AM THE THIRD PERSON INVOLVED WITH BKH AND BRIAN POTTER ON THIS DEAL... THAT'S WHO THE HELL I AM. SO YOU THOUGHT WRONG... CLINT...

[Mark_C]

Who's willing to lay down some cash that someone got quickrods email address, offered to float him the difference between 5500 and 8800 plus a nice finders fee if he completeed the transaction.

Dollars to donuts says that car never sees quickrods garage. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif[/img]

Just my opinion of course, after reading all the previous posts on this. Hope it's no one that frequents this site.

[Belair62]

Duane you are definitely in the drivers seat now !! Bet a lot of fresh new offers come your way...hold out for the most you can get !!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

[jg95z28]

Unbiased opinion here.

The person that everyone should be screaming at is the Seller (ken6769). Obviously this guy had no clue he was selling a Yenko, otherwise he would have set his reserve price higher.

If he found that out before the auction closed; he must have figured Yenko enthusiasts would see the auction and the price would have gone much higher. Since the information on the item had changed he could have cancelled the auction legally because the information was incorrect and reauctioned it later.

Secondly, he could have ended the auction at anytime, before the closing time, even after the reserve was met, simplying stating that he sold it off of ebay. It sounds like according to Duane (quickrod1) that is kind of what happened, however the seller kept the auction going (probably hoping to get a better deal).

Once the auction ended and the reserve was met, under the terms of ebay, ken6769 and quickrod1 had a binding contract. Furthermore, since quickrod1 had met the terms of the sale ($1000 deposit down) he has met the initial terms of that contract.

If for some reason ken6769 and quickrod1 failed to close the deal, then ken6769 could offer the car to bkhpah (farone), however, I don't believe there is anything binding in the ebay terms of the sale that requires him to do so.

If you follow the ebay terms to the letter, Duane(quickrod1) did in fact win the auction and is owed a product by ken6769, since he has met the auction terms.

Unfortunately for Duane, if ken6769 decides to cheat him out of the deal, there isn't much ebay will do, other than allow Duane to give him negative feedback.

However, if Duane mailed his deposit to ken6769, there is still a possibility of going after ken6769 for mail fraud, which would be a Federal offense. (Check with your local authorities.)

I don't blame anyone for trying to make a back door deal before the fact. While trying to do so after the auction has closed goes against the principles of ebay, it technically isn't illegal if they weren't involved with the original auction. However, what is quite evident is that the person everyone should really be upset with, is the seller, ken6769.

Anyway, just my unbiased observation.

[Charley Lillard]

If Duane really is Quickrod and what he is saying is true than I think the problem lies with the seller. If he had already sold the car to Duane than how can anybody believe he was telling the truth about any of the other stuff. There are so many loopholes with Ebay now I doubt that any Ebay Auction is very Enforceable anymore. Do we have a real Name of the Seller ? If he really sold the car to Duane but was still trying to sell it to others than I would think someone should file a Complaint with Ebay. Brian, Brian,Clint and Frank... None of you really know what the seller was telling the other prospective buyers so you might want to slow down before slinging more Mud. Maybe the Seller would care to Chime in here ? In light of all that has transpired, I would like to see the actual vin and Title. The Seller has never said it was a Yenko so oops I mixed two of the #'s of the vin in my Ebay description...Probably not but in this wierd chain of events it would fit perfectly.

[Pantera]

Heven forbid but there is also the remote posiabality that the car is a total fabrication and he is taking anybodys moneys and has skipped town? Has anyone seen a copy of the title or the vin #. There are all kinds of scams online and this would be a easy one to do and nobody would know how to find the guy later. I sure hope I am wrong and this works out for someone to wind up with a huge smile on their face.
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[Clint_69]

I will bet that I have a hard time getting my money back and I am sure that I will have to drag the seller through court to do so. $11,500 is not allot of money but it is certainly enough to pi$$ me off. Ferone: I did not realize that you were invloved in this deal but you spoke about my character before you had the facts about the deal. I understand that Brian and Brian are you friends but there is no reason to assasinate my character when you just do not understand what went on. If you look at my explaination logically, you will understand why I take offense to your statement.

[sYc Yenko]

Just my 2 cents,

Personally if i was the seller, And found out that the car was a real Yenko during or even after the acction, I would of contacted ebay and told them, look i made a mistake, I was not fully aware of what I was selling,Surley that can be justified, The main reson why I think this all got messy was the fact that the seller put the car up for sale, Not knowing it was a real yenko. And if it wan't for Mr Yenko, none of us would even be talking about this car.

Now if i was the seller I would put the car back on ebay, And let every one have a chance on going for it.

Like I said at the top of this post, This is just my 2 cents, And i don t wish to step on anyones toes.

Nick