Baldwin Car For Sale

[MotownMadman]

Not long ago I had contacted Dave Belk to let him know of a Deuce in Traverse city Michigan. Dave called the owner, made a deal for a tidy sum, and went on his way with truck and trailer towards Traverse City to pick up the car. Meanwhile, someone else here that was aware of the deal mentioned it to a few other people, and on down the line, next thing you know Dave is calling me from Chicago, halfway into the trip, to let me know he had just talked to the seller who had sold the car to someone else. The new buyer had no idea a deal had already been made on the car and when he found out he offered to Dave to bow out of the deal. Honorable. Dave responded with telling the new buyer to go ahead and get the car and turned around and went home frustrated, yet honorable. The seller who expected X amount of $$, came to agree on that amount with Dave. Meanwhile, someone unknowing of the previous deal offers more and the seller jumps on it. Dishonorable. If Kevin had a contract and deposit the seller should not have even been discussing the sale of the car to anyone else. It appears all the interest generated may have awoke the great Dragon of greed to possibly cause the seller to rethink his first deal. If Kevin had struck a deal, that was it, it was Kevin's car. But, it is possible that the other people inquiring about the car may not have been aware of a previous deal as with the Deuce, possibly the seller had led others to believe there was no deal as evidenced by his post. However Kevin, had it all been reversed and you were calling on the car unaware or convinced by the seller there was no deal, I dont think that would make you a yo-yo or an idiot, it would make you a car collector in search of your passion. The seller and his family may be nice people, but I am a bit confused as to how you had a deal yet the seller is posting there was no deal, thereby inviting anyone else interested to call. Looking at the big picture, other then a possible big misunderstanding I would think the harsh remarks should have been directed at the seller if anyone at all for advertising the car further after a deal had been made. Two things in this world will cause people to operate outside the boundries of honor and common sense, love and money, which this situation has both, the love of the hobby and the money from potential profit. Somebody owes somebody an apology here, I am not sure though who those individuals may be. Just my opinion.
Thanks,
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[SuperCars]

Motown, well said. My comments weren't against callers that called AFTER Dustin posted the second time that the car was still for sale. If everyone re-reads my post, I was referencing callers that were calling PRIOR to his second post saying he's still taking offers. You can almost understand Dustin's plight if someone is calling previously and telling him that the car is worth $30-50,000; even hough it is an undocumented car and needing about $50,000 to 60,000 restoration on it.

So I am clarifying and I am repeating again, I don't have any problem with the guys that called after Dustin re-posted it's still for sale and taking offers. It's the guys calling him beforehand that caused all the trouble.

I don't see anyone commenting about the "COPO for $500 thread". I wish my deal was that good. I've assumed the risk on this car as it is still undocumented. Dustin was not willing to send Joel $1,500.

[MotownMadman]

This all goes with the territory. When you have a limited amount of collectable cars with a lot of collectors, ruthlessness will rear it's head. No different then the world of rare art, Gems, Coins, etc. If it was easy everyone would be doing it. We must keep in sight that no material item or collectable is worth enough to sacrifice honor over, a thousand rightous transactions will never be remembered over the one unethical transaction. Never allow any deal to be controlled by emotion, clear thought will prevail over emotion every time. The prisons are full of people who acted on emotion with a crime of passion that most would not have commited utilizing clear thought. To a lesser degree this hobby has the elements necessary to go either way, calm or chaos. One rare car that is found and made known to the collector world could be compared to a Monday morning sale table surrounded by women at your local discount store. Cooler heads must prevail.
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