Steel crossram hood on Ebay

[JoeC]

Are you sure the glass hood was allowed in TA? I was looking at old pictures of a Penske 68 Camaro and it has a SS hood on it? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[Jeff H]

Yes, the cowl induction hood was legal for TA racing in 69(not available in 68) so GM made the normal metal cowl induction hood as an RPO and then released the fiberglass crossram cowl hood as a heavy duty part because it would qualify and save weight on the front end. I don't see the reason for the metal crossram hood unless GM was required to produce it to satisfy the SCCA. Obviously the metal crossram hood will fit better than the fiberglass hood because it won't tend to bow. But with such small numbers made(10 or less?), it has a lot of value to some people.

[Mr Yenko]

Was just on the phone with Warren M. and he and I were talking about this hood. Looking closer to the hood it appears to be a single 4 barrel hood that was converted into a cross ram hood. Looking at the photos of the one in the Hooper book the air box for the rear carb doesn't come down over the carb like the Orig. one. Also the hole does not look to be semetrical all the way around. That if you took a cut out of the hole it would not fold in half and match up to itself. I would be carefull in the purchase of this hood. We do know the source of this hood [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif[/img]

[Supercar_Kid]

Yes, I agree this ebay hood looks a little fishy after comparing it to the one in the book... the one in Hooper's book has a symmetrical hole, which would correctly match up to the cross ram air cleaner, and also has the airbox portion that is much different than the standard single 4 bbl cowl hood... If they only made 10 or so, perhaps each one was a little different? Trying to give the benefit of the doubt here, but lets just say i'd be looking VERY closely at this hood in person before shelling out the cake for it. On a side note, Wasn;t the FIRST use of the cowl induction hood on a production camaro actually used on the first ZL1?

[TimJ]

I just looked at the steel crossram hood my Z-28(garnet red,service package JL-8 with eaton posi,chambered exhaust,140 camshaft,endura,console delete etc.)has and the airbox drops down 3 inches to meet the much lower(than the 472 intake)crossram aircleaner. I wouldnt buy from anyone with a cash only no return policy let alone this particular dealer who has a reputation for misrepresenting authenticity of parts.I also own a 69 copo camaro,rally green,m-22,8-track; both cars are local with canadian documentation.I am currently restoring a 67 hemi gtx and i race a 70 eliminator 428cj in nhra super stock.I read somewhere vince piggins wanted to offer the crossram as an rpo so they started to tool up the hoods but stopped when they realized with no chokes or exhaust crossover streetability was never going to meet gm standards.The last production number i heard was 4 of these hoods were known to exist.

[JChlupsa]

Tim, Aloha mind if I ask where you from? theres a reason behind my madness

[TimJ]

hi jeff; I'm from vancouver b.c. on the west coast and both the Z-28 and the copo were sold new here.There were 4 copos sold in b.c. only 2 are still here,the other 2 are in L.A.

[COPO PETE]

Welcome Tim! Shoot me a e-mail. Would like to hear more on your Canadian COPO Camaro!
Peter

[MotownMadman]

The one and only 68 Z-28 convertible has the steel crossram hood, if anyone is interested I can shoot a photo of the underside and post it here.
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

[Jim Mattison]

Matt,

The '68 Z-28 Convertible that we built for Pete Estes, when he was General Manager of Chevy has the fiberglass cross-ram cowl hood, NOT a steel one!

The entire cross-ram program was intended to give the Chevy race teams (mainly Penske) an advantage in the SCCA Trans Am or A/Sedan class. The few steel hoods that are out in the marketplace were made to be used on the racecars, until Chevy got the ok from the SCCA to use a fiberglass one. It also gave the race teams an option to use either steel or fiberglass. Penske used an "acid-dipped" steel hood (and other parts) on his '69 Camaro race cars for most of the '69 season. As we all know, the 'glass hoods will have a tendency to warp from the engine heat.

One of the reasons that we built the '68 Z-28 Convertible for Estes was to help expedite this effort along. If you'll look at the Z-28 Convertible again, I'm sure that you'll discover that it has a fiberglass hood on it!

Jim Mattison