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Old 05-15-2003, 06:39 PM
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Well, I don't have a real reason, nor big desire to sell. I did price it a little more than I have into the car, about 10%. I do know the fellow with the green ex-Otis Phase III turned down $250K on that car. The owner of the Yellow LS7 Dream Car Garage Camaro feels his is worth equivalent of value to a 69 ZL1 Camaro which are bouncing around $275K. To me the ZLX is decently priced, as it is the only 427 ZLX Phase III Camaro I know of to exist

Since I'm into the hobby for the love of cars, and not for profit, there is probably no amount of money that could buy my Yellow 69 Motion Camaro,(I hope that doesn't turn into "famous last words"), as it is just not for sale. It's just that I'm just a little overabundant with Motion cars. Recently bought the 73 SS427 Phase III Chevelle from Cahill.This is my list of Motion Cars:
68 SS 427 L88 Phase III Camaro
69 SS 427 Phase III Camaro
69 427 ZLX Phase III Camaro
69 SS 427 Phase III Vette
69 SS 427 Phase III Nova
69 SS 427 Phase III Chevelle
71 Z28 454 Phase III Camaro
73 SS 427 Phase III Chevelle
Because having 2 69 Camaros, I chose to sell the ZLX; but won't bother me if I end up keeping it either.

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Old 05-15-2003, 07:46 PM
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Nice List Kevin! Gotta love seeing Phase III next to each car = lotsa HP [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 05-15-2003, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: 69 Motion ZLX Camaro

My question is...What makes a Motion car a Phase 3 ? I know my 80 Motion had Phase 3 on the Motion paperwork and on a Decal on the car. Seems like they are all Phase 3 cars now.
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Old 05-15-2003, 10:54 PM
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Default Re: 69 Motion ZLX Camaro

Charley, most likely you have seen this from MaddMikes pages but just in case you havent. Also notice there are no Phase I or II cars.

http://www.nastyz28.com/motion/motion.html

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Old 05-16-2003, 01:49 AM
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Default Re: 69 Motion ZLX Camaro

Rat Bird is also a Phase III, per the Motion invoices [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img]

One of the old Motion catalogues explained the differences between the phases.
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Old 05-16-2003, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: 69 Motion ZLX Camaro

It looks like the contents of the phase 3 package varied with model and the year. This is for 69.
Phase 3 Camaro
On a Corvette, mag wheels and sidepipes were included with Phase 3.
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Old 05-16-2003, 02:46 AM
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Default Re: 69 Motion ZLX Camaro

Joel used the term "Phase III" to describe the top of the line more exotic options. The Phase III car was the one that ran in the 11's. Motion also used the terms - Phase III fiberglass, Phase III ignition box, Phase III emblems, Phase III graphics, and Phase III engines. The cars were custom built and used similar parts but probably none were exactly the same. Phase III was big HP and big money. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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Old 05-16-2003, 03:45 AM
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Kevin, That Yellow Car is one that keeps me awake at night!!! Someday when I hit the Texas Lotto I may pay you a visit to see if I cant change your mind!!

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Old 05-16-2003, 05:13 AM
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My question is...What makes a Motion car a Phase 3 ? I know my 80 Motion had Phase 3 on the Motion paperwork and on a Decal on the car. Seems like they are all Phase 3 cars now.

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Charley, is as knowledgable as anyone here, and of course not all Motion cars are Phase III. So I'm typing this for others that may be curious. Some Motion cars were only 427 crate motor transplants retaining stock exhaust and all factory equipment just like a 427 COPO Camaro; and therefore not a Phase III. Those Motion 427 crate motor transplant Camaros, were equivalent to GM Factory 427 COPO Camaros, and were pretty tame when compared to the Phase III Cars.

In my opinion, Yenko (COPO) Camaros are tame in comparison to the Phase III Motion Cars and is why I appreciate Motion Phase III Cars more. If Charley's question is interpreted as, why are all of Kevin's Cars listed as Phase III Cars, it is because they were equipped as Phase III Cars beyond just a 427 crate motor transplant car. Charley's Phase III Camaro is also a whole lot more than just stuffing a 427 crate motor in a Camaro.

Also, Joe C is right in that the term Phase III was used loosely and covered a lot of equipment on Motion Cars, and no two Phase III Motion cars were the same.
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Old 05-16-2003, 06:27 AM
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Default Re: 69 Motion ZLX Camaro

Did all the Phase 3 Motion cars past the guaretee 11.?? mark. That was bold of them to guarentee such performance!
Actually thats [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/[/img] Awesome!
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