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Old 04-23-2003, 03:48 PM
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RatPack, You are right I still need to put a Motion decal on it. As far as restoration, you must mean (in your opinion) you would've re-painted it the way the "private owner" had it re-painted in the non-factory color of white as was seen in the magazine article with the Gaudy "MR H" in 2 foot high letters, and other "non-significant" insignias of the private owner, etc?

We've been through this before, but in the 3 pages of Motion invoices there was no price for a paint color change, and nothing about Lettering, so the private owner would have had to do that himself. It would be safe to say that Joel wouldn't have painted it for him for free. But I do understand your opinion was to do it the way it was in a photograph for the "magazine".

In a similar example, I'm not sure anyone would restore a Hugger Orange Yenko to white paint job, just because it had been re-painted white by a prior owner as featured in a magazine though. My opinion is, that since it wasn't re-painted by Motion, and it was the private owner who made the paint color change with the ugly lettering/logos of himself as a non-famous private owner, it was just not what I wished to do.


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Old 04-23-2003, 03:58 PM
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Kevin, Awesome looking car. Looks different (was in primer) then when I saw it last. And, as usual, regardless of how much research you do and how correct a car is, someone will always find fault.
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Old 04-24-2003, 02:46 AM
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Kevin, I am not finding fault with your car as some might think. It is just that I have 2 NOS, not repro, Motion decals and figured you might need one to replace the original. Since you already have one then I will hang onto these and use them for another Motion car that I might just find in the future. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/[/img]

Tom, sounds to me like the same situation as the Douglass cars, research, research, verify, and then get hammered that it is still not correct eventhough research proves it to be correct. Again, I did not find any fault with the car. Heck mine is not correct in every detail, at least not now.

I found this car in 1993 before anyone on this board even knew about it. I know its history and so does Kevin which I have explained to him over the phone and posted here in the past also. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif[/img] Whether the paint scheme is right or wrong to me, you, or anyone else, it is still Kevins car and he can paint it like he wants to; and I do not have a problem with that. There are other documented "supercars" that were restored in the wrong color to suit the owners personal tastes and there is nothing wrong with that either. I myself would prefer black over brown, or orange over white and would probably do the same thing if I did not like the original color, it is only paint. If it wasn't for Tim Lopata (copolocator)relocating this car, it would still be sitting in Georgia unrestored in the back of an old garage covered in dust. Thanks to him, Mike, & Kevin, the car lives again....................RatPack..........
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Old 04-24-2003, 04:09 AM
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Troy, thanks for the compliments. I guess I'm being a little defensive, but in retrospect we are probably in agreement and saying the same thing in a round about way. Which is in this situation, the car could have been re-done either way, and still not be incorrect; as it is personal preference.

I keep pointing out Motion didn't re-paint it as it is not on the Motion invioces. As the white color change was by the owner, you could restore it with the private owner white re-paint color, or you could restore it to it's original GM factory hugger orange color. I choose my way, but I understand your opinion/thoughts on the other way it could have been done, which wouldn't have been incorrect either. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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Old 04-24-2003, 04:31 AM
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Kevin....the Super Cat was hard to believe...now this car !!! Sixties can I come to the next fire sale ???? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img]
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Old 04-24-2003, 04:56 AM
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Belair, I don't know that you'd call them fire sales. But I'd say he's got money to burn, and make a good fire. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

But, I have to say thanks to him, and also to Bob at Wonderlake Auto In Hebron IL, who did the work. Bob did a great job, worked hard to accomodate everything, at a fair price. And, I can't forget a plug for Ron Norman at McHenry Classic who supplied parts. I recommend buying Camaro/Chevy parts from him; price is right and you can't beat the service.
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Kevin...last time I went past ( I couldn't go down his street without proper passports) there did seem to be a smoldering fire....I thought they were just burning leaves left over from last fall. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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Old 04-25-2003, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: 69 427 ZLX Motion Phase III

I was sure someone had scanned in the article for this car when it was "in white", but for the life of me I can't find it anywhere. Does anyone remember where it was posted, and would you be kind enough to point me there?

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Old 04-24-2003, 04:36 AM
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Like Troy, I probably would have done the car in white with the graphics as it was featured in Chevy Action magazine. To be truly correct on how the car left Motion it probably should have been all hugger orange (and maybe remanants of either Z-28 or SS hockey stripes-not sure of the cars pedigree) with an unpainted gelcoat grey hood and scoop. But who would go that far?
Of course, Kevin can now paint the car white with graphics and be full circle on how the car was progessively modified back in '74. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Wouldn't that be a kicker for a correct resto?

That being said I really like this car because it has the the style of mods I remember when first getting into cars back in the '74-'75 era. I'm probaby one of the few dinosaurs that actually think tires that stick out in the rear looks really cool.


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Old 04-24-2003, 04:39 AM
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Whitetop your not the only one! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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